flower, I miss my mom to the point of being tragic. give your mom a big hug when you see her. she may need a hug from you too, and we have no guarantees when we'll have the chance again.
deddaisy
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I miss my mom
by flower indont know why but lately i do.
i feel so bad that i have been so mean to her lately.
but ever since i found out the real deal about the organization i havent been able to even hear her voice without being feeling angry at her.
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DF story in Detroit Newspaper on Shirley Jackson
by blondie inhttp://www.detnews.com/2002/religion/0208/30/d05w-574630.htm
the detroit news
'disfellowshipped' jehovah's witnesses speak out against practice.
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deddaisy
Shirley is really paying a price for ever giving this cult the time of day. so she's shunned by her own kids, for what, saying she didn't feel God's presence in the hall? while that pervert that molested children, whatever his name is, is in good standing in prison. perfect WTS logic.
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JW Refuses Blood. JW Dies. JW's Sue.
by Mister 8iggs ini guess the family needs the money so that they can quit their jobs and pioneer.
http://www.canada.com/halifax/news/story.asp?id={49cb73c1-27a2-48f8-a3fb-6127fcc41a9e}.
family of jehovah's witness gives up lawsuit against doctors over her death.
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deddaisy
these stories make me sick to my stomach. In the Hobbs case, it's heartbreaking that three children will grow up without their mother, because of an idiotic doctrine fed to their parents by an idiotic organization. It appears by the husband's comments that he may have submitted to blood if it came down to his wife living or dying:
"It was sometime after my arrival that I was asked ... about giving Daphne blood and I told him I would not go against her
wishes or religious convictions," the affidavit says."Nobody told me that even if blood had been given at that time, whether it would make a difference. I was simply told that it
was unlikely she would survive."He will live with this the rest of his life. Negligence or no negligence, blood would have most likely saved her life.
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JW Refuses Blood. JW Dies. JW's Sue.
by Mister 8iggs ini guess the family needs the money so that they can quit their jobs and pioneer.
http://www.canada.com/halifax/news/story.asp?id={49cb73c1-27a2-48f8-a3fb-6127fcc41a9e}.
family of jehovah's witness gives up lawsuit against doctors over her death.
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deddaisy
The Vancouver Sun
February 3, 2001 Saturday FINAL EDITION
HEADLINE: Patient who refused blood has right to sue: Court rules man can sue the hospital where his Jehovah's Witness
wife diedBYLINE: Neal Hall
A Jehovah's Witness who signed a release form refusing any blood transfusions before she died during a routine operation
did not sign away her right to sue for medical negligence, a B.C. Supreme Court judge ruled Friday.Daphne Hobbs underwent a hysterectomy at Chilliwack General Hospital on April 15, 1996. The operation was expected to
take up to two hours and result in the loss of about 200 millilitres of blood.Instead, there was unexpected and substantial bleeding during the operation. The 36-year-old mother of three died at 1 a.m.the next day after losing all her circulating blood, about 4,000 ml. Her husband, Ernest Hobbs, filed a lawsuit in 1998, claiming
negligence against the hospital and a number of doctors. A number of defendants were struck from the case, which is
proceedings against Dr. John Robertson, the obstetrician who performed the operation, and Dr. A.A. Suleman, the anesthetist.
Ernest Hobbs filed the lawsuit on behalf of his children Kaleb, 6, Travis, 10 and Jada, 12.A trial was set for last Dec. 4 but a legal issue that had to be sorted out first was whether the release form, specifying that
Daphne Hobbs refused to accept blood or blood products for religious reasons, absolved the doctors of liability.Justice Allen Melvin, in a 21-page written judgment, decided it did not. "In my opinion, the form she signed does not ...
amount to a voluntary assumption of risk of surgeons' negligence by Mrs. Hobbs," the judge concluded."A contrary conclusion could result in patients (who do not sign releases) receiving a higher standard of care than those who
do so."As a result of the decision, the matter will now proceed to trial or possibly an out-of-court settlement, said lawyer Lou Zivot,
who is acting for Ernest Hobbs, 46."With this hurdle out of the way, I would hope we could proceed to talking about settlement," Zivot said.
"This is quite a novel point," he said of the legal issue.
According to court documents, the doctors deny their care of the patient was negligent. Robertson's statement of defence says
he "exercised reasonable care, skill and diligence."Robertson concluded the death "could have been prevented if this lady could have received blood and coagulation products."
An affidavit filed by Ernest Hobbs states he was called to the hospital and was advised there had been some bleeding.
"It was sometime after my arrival that I was asked ... about giving Daphne blood and I told him I would not go against her
wishes or religious convictions," the affidavit says."Nobody told me that even if blood had been given at that time, whether it would make a difference. I was simply told that it
was unlikely she would survive."An affidavit by Dr. Mark Hobbs, a Montreal obstetrician and gynecologist retained by Hobbs's lawyer, said Robertson's
operative report on the surgery was inadequate because "it does not detail all the events that must have occurred during this
four-hour operation."Boyd, who noted he had treated numerous Jehovah's Witness patients, wrote that it appeared Daphne Hobbs had been given
massive amounts of crystalloids that had "washed out" all the clotting factors in her blood so it could not coagulate.Boyd said Hobbs suffered a pelvic hemorrhage, which is hard to see during vaginal surgery. He suggested Robertson "should
have opened the abdomen and controlled the bleeding" rather than continuing the operation vaginally.Robertson's operation report stated "the site of the bleeding could not be easily ascertained."
Daphne Hobbs had sought the operation to solve a bleeding problem. She told her husband it was low risk. Previously, she
had attended hospital for four medical procedures, including a cesarean section, and each time had signed a release form
refusing to permit blood transfusions.The operation record shows the surgery commenced at 12:18 p.m. and finished at 4:35 p.m.
Initially, there was one intravenous line connected to Hobbs but a second line was connected at 1:45, when she was given 10
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can't understand why people can't see .
by Curyus ini don't understand why people can't see the truth when it's right there in the bible in black & white.
you can't change it to fit your personal lifestyle or modify it by only applying what intrest or benefits you.
the wt organization has its place just like all the other secular laws have theres to protect & guide us.
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deddaisy
you:
1) believe that Armageddon will come before you get old, or
2) are young and can't comprehend getting old, or
3) all of the above.
get out while your life is ahead of you, instead of behind you............
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The Watchtower has a deal with the Navy.
by avengers inwell, here's another nail for the coffin: my son requested this info to show his jw sister.
washington, d.c. 20549.
form 10-ksb.
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deddaisy
Avengers,
We already know that eriefly is AngryXJW is MadApostate, and it seems he has a nasty habit of calling posters, among other things, "Satan's Spawn." remember this:
OUTLAW:______
YOU (and a LOT of other posters at this site) were KICKED OUT of the WTS because you don't have an honest bone in your body!!!!________
AND DELETING ME OFF HERE WILL NEVER TURN YOU DEMONS INTO ANGELS______
LIVE WITH THAT....SATAN'S SPAWN !!!---------Erieguy
check out this old thread and a poster addressing MadApostate:
Please. You will pull my chain no more; I'm done with you.I will accept anybody at face value, as I have you, but I'm certainly not inclined to cooperate or dialogue with someone who shouts his demands and acts like a schoolyard bully. You call Maximus a jerk, a hatchetman of the Borg, lump him in with "Satan's spawn" and a few other choice insults after he had given you information you requested about the theme for the circuit assemblies. (Read the threads, he never called you a troll; Talleyman did.) Max did not respond in kind to your flaming and vulgarity. You now want him to vouch for you? You have to be kidding!--------Eusebius Hieronymus (addressing MadApostate)
see: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=9907&site=3
Remember this earlier post, which he copied and pasted to every thread dealing with the military and the WTS:
PLEASE do not let this particular DECEPTION (this poster and his cronies have more) cause you to believe that all posters here are "unscruptulous LIARS" or that issues such as "the WTS's molestation reporting problem", or "the WTS's United Nations NGO membership" are not GENUINE SCANDALS._______
Just so you will know about this "NAVY CONTRACT" deception:_______------ERIEGUY
He attempted to make it appear that he was only concerned with new posters taking the child molestation issue seriously by discrediting any WTS military contract association. This is strange behavior for someone who's comments in older threads seem as if they are attempting, in an underhanded way, to discredit the molestation issue. This is a poster's response to him:
MadApostate,
First of all, I will talk to my editors about this release. Secondly, your chatter does a disservice to the cause. We are assisting several who have been harmed by the WTBTS. I am studyig to be a professional counselor, and work under the guidance of licensed counselor. Unless you have any suggestions keep your angry, insulting comments to yourself. What are you doing besides talking about it?-----John JBB123
The thread is "Press Release: JWs and Child Molestation" and Mad Apostate showed how "concerned" he was with the child molestation issue.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?=19132&site=3&page=1
the comment made by erieguy in the next link also shows a concern that the molestation issue be taken seriously, doesn't it?:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=32535&site=3
so if he's not concerned with the child molestation issue as he claims, and he attempts to keep posters busy writing editors with complete nonsense issues while he attempts to discredit any real damaging issues, what do you think he's up too?
it's also strange that MadApostate, in his early post, claims he hasn't had any recent association with the Witnesses and comes across as being ignorant regarding how often assemblies are held and can't figure out how to find out what the theme of an upcoming assembly is?:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=8890&site=3
this is certainly odd since in more recent threads he admits to talking to Witness acquaintances. why wouldn't he have asked them about the theme? it's also strange that one can't find out basic information, yet one can figure out how to obtain foreign WTS information.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=22781&site=3
if I'm not mistaken, he has even figured out where the WTS writers get their material........
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Open letter to Bod at the London Branch
by caspian inan open letter to bod at the london branch .
dear bod .
i have personal knowledge that one of your duties, at the london branch is to monitor this discussion board as well as freeminds and silentlambs .
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deddaisy
caspian, the above link is not intended for amac/amccullough.........it is for the London Branch, I was curious if they are aware that the Watchtower Society's name is on REGI US Inc.'s SEC Filing.........
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Open letter to Bod at the London Branch
by caspian inan open letter to bod at the london branch .
dear bod .
i have personal knowledge that one of your duties, at the london branch is to monitor this discussion board as well as freeminds and silentlambs .
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deddaisy
Figures...here we go again...Dedaisy, for the umpteenth time, please stop stalking me. Why are you so obsessed with me? I know I'm a looker but geez!
sorry, I've just got this thing for a man in a bad suit.........
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=32179&site=3&page=8
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deddaisy
You specifically said Bill's allegations of local child molestation were groundless and called Bill devious.
come on Bill, you can tell us, you, and those 23,000 files, had nothing better to do with your lives than to make up stories..........
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Two Jehovahs Witnesses Beheaded!
by deceit inmuslim rebels in the southern philippines have beheaded two christian hostages, part of a group of jehovah's witnesses seized on tuesday.
the two severed heads were found by the philippines military on the remote southern island of jolo.
the army chief on jolo, brigadier general romeo tolentino, said that a note was attached to one of the heads, saying: "those who do not believe in allah will suffer the same fate.
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I think some of us get more frustrated with Witnesses when something as horrifying as this happens. we all know the WTS is moronic, but what will it take before its members, and our families, figure that out......
why is it that people can see how barbaric it is when people are slaughtered because they follow a different religion, yet they can't see the barbarity of the WTS's teaching that this is what God plans to do at Armageddon ?
Edited by - deddaisy on 25 August 2002 4:25:36