One of the dogs I had growing up would eat anything. On multiple occasions he tried to eat a bumble bee, and got hurt trying to do so at least twice. While our other dog needed to have his medicine wrapped up in something tasty, I could throw him his pills and he'd catch them out of the air and swallow them.
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What strange things do your pets like to eat?
by Lady Lee inwhen i was a kid we had a small dog that loved spaghetti with tomato sauce.
he was our witness dog that would sit near the table and wait until after the prayer to start begging for food.. the two cats i had for 12 years loved some really odd things.
i was peeling corn on the cob tonight and missed having them pester me for raw corn niblets.
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War on "false religion"?
by apfergus inthis is something that was never entirely clear to me, but practically no interpretation of it makes any sense.
as i recall, the jws have some interpretation of the revelation accounts, or possibly one of the other cryptic visions, involving beasts and world governments that predicted that the united states government (or maybe it was the un?
) was going to one day wake up to the truth and declare war on false religion (babylon the great).
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apfergus
This is something that was never entirely clear to me, but practically no interpretation of it makes any sense. As I recall, the JWs have some interpretation of the Revelation accounts, or possibly one of the other cryptic visions, involving beasts and world governments that predicted that the United States government (or maybe it was the UN?) was going to one day wake up to The Truth and declare war on false religion (Babylon the Great). I could be entirely wrong, because the only strong memory I have of this was when I got home from school on 9/11/2001 and my mother was convinced that it was going to result in the U.S. declaring war on Islam and starting the irradication of false religion and thus lead to Armagedon.
So I was just wondering if anyone might have any links or clippings from some WT publications that might make their position on this at least slightly more clear? Because like I said, I can't quite tell if this was an actual official doctrine or just the result of a game of religious telephone resulting in some very strange ideas. Of course it might also be my mistake because of the above mentioned experience with my mother while I was still trying to break away from the Organization and was very depressed and otherwise troubled. -
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apfergus
9/11/2001 was within a few months of my leaving the organization and my mother freaked. She was convinced that it was the start of the United States' war against "false religion" and that Armagedon had begun.
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Do u believe much of the JW teachings but not Gods Representative on earth?
by breeze in.
i wonder how many are still drawn to the beliefs but just don't believe the wtbts is jehovah's representative on earth and the only hope for mankind?.
of course we know some are not correct like 607 bc and 1914 and 1975 etc.. breeze
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apfergus
I caught myself regurgitating JW dogma for at least a couple years after I left. None of that, anymore for me. I reject any idea that cannot be shown to be a likely explanation through empirical evidence.
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What the Bleep Do We Know!? Movie
by Sailor Ripley ini was just introduced to a new flick and thought that you might want to check it out.
i'll not give any review as i don't want to sway your interpretation.
i will say that i found it interesting and could be appropriate based on some postings i've read here.
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apfergus
Yeah, all the physics in that movie is completely bogus. One of the interviewees actually got really mad because everything he said was taken out of context and cut up to make it sound like he was saying things he never would have intended to say.
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What would be the Ideal Church for you?
by AK - Jeff ini mean - what kind of doctrine would they teach - what sort of social programs would they support - how big?
how small?
preacherman or preacherwoman?
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apfergus
Being atheist, I'm probably not the best person to answer the question, but what I want (and have, more or less) is probably more of a salon than a church. I meet with people and simply discuss some aspect of philosophy and before long everyone is playing the devil's advocate to everyone else and what we're actually discussing might be only tangentially related to the original topic. It's quite fascinating.
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Books
by RPT inwhat is the best book i can give to a jw to convince her its all a big con ?
maybe she will read it maybe she wont but at least i said i tried my best.
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apfergus
I was a big fan of Apocalypse Delayed, myself.
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what about celebrating?
by Swamboozled inanyone still not celebrate birthdays?
holidays?
i was wondering about everyone's position about this as i plan to throw a huge make-up birthday party for each of my kids this year.
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apfergus
I actually use my upbringing as an excuse to not celebrate Christmas, because I hate shopping and having to try to find a gift for everyone so nobody feels left out. It's way too much stress and not worth it to me. I still like to do nice things for people, of course (which is why my roommate and I operate a small socialist country out of our living room).
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Arrogance? When will we humans learn we are not the center of everything?
by mavie inwe humans are an arrogant, anthropocentric species.
ptolemy posited that the earth was the center of the universe.
once copernicus began to show that the sun, not earth, was at the center of our solar system, some still believed that the sun at least was the center of the universe.
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apfergus
Oh my, are some people stuck up. It's such a common misconception that evolution is somehow "striving" or "progressing" toward humanity or that humans are somehow the final, ultimate end to the process of evolution. How can evolution progress? It has no consciousness or will or motivation. It is an abstract concept, a series of ideas applied to our observations so that we might understand them a little bit better.
I believe it was Stephen J. Gould who pointed out that if you plot population as a function of complexity you get a decaying exponential. Right on the edge of "most complex" things can move in two directions: things can get more complex or less complex. That's why there's more "uncomplex" life than "complex" life, because everything started out simple and things can always get simpler once they've advanced beyond the basics.
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Were your parents a different religion before JDubism?
by Crumpet ini know an awful lot here are 3rd and 4th generation - but were there any who's parents become dubs as adults?
i'd be interested to here what it was that made an adult become a jw when not brought up that way?.
i'll relate my parents experience shortly...but its something i;ve been thinking about a lot.
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apfergus
My father was raised Southern Baptist and had it repeatedly drilled into his head growing up that he was going to burn in Hell. He now will have nothing to do with religion. My mother was raised methodist, converted to presbyterianism (or maybe it was the other way around, I don't remember), and then converted to JW-ism when I was six or so. Dad went to a couple conventions and a memorial, but after that his patience wore thin and he pretty much disappeared as I was at the Kingdom Hall or doing something related to it pretty much all the time for years after that.
I think my mom's conversion was because she wanted answers. She didn't find them in any of the myriad of religions she tried when she was growing up or even after I was born. At some point she remembered that one of her boyfriends in college left her because he was studying with the JWs, so she just looked up the KH in the phone book, drove over, met a car full of sisters in the parking lot who asked if she wanted a bible study and the rest is history.