Good work, Amazing, you certainly live up to your name. I think there's a misconception that the watchtower in their infinite wisdom, has oversimplified. They don't allow the rank and file to think anything other than what they teach them, so the rank and file believe that every other religion is the same. But just because you believe in evolution, doesn't mean you agree completely with Darwin. You can be a Christian and still believe in evolution. You can be an evolutionary expert and still believe in God. You can even believe that the Bible is the word of God, and not accept every scripture word for word.
This is what is so confusing to the devout rank and file. To them, we sound like inconsistant morons, like
"how can you say this and believe that?" So they internlize what they see, and combined with Watchtower teaching, it further encourages the belief that they are "Jehovah's People" and we are "worldy" and controlled by Satan. We supposodly can't even figure out what we believe, let alone argue with them.
But this is the fatal flaw in the JW thinking. In true Christanity, there is no rank and file! Jesus wants us to think for ourselves. There are many rules in my religion, but the most important one I was taught was to not agree with all the rules all of the time! True Christanity has unconditional love, does not waste time judging others in the congregation, and encourages you to be your own person. For an illistration of this, please see Judges chapter 7.
By the way, you know how ridiculus my mom sounds when she says the Earth is only seven thousand years old? Please, I have T-shirts older than that.
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Watchtower Evolution Fraud
by Amazing inthe watchtower society first published a book on evolution in the late 1960s or early 1970s, simply known as the evolution book.
it is a small hardbound book, the same in size at the old "truth" book.
other than reading it, i never really studied it.
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Why is the WTBTS so against mental health professional treatment?
by Gill infollowing on from sandy's thread on her brother's pt, i wondered exactly why does the wtbts take such an opposing stand to professional mental health treatment?
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Good idea Bammer, and welcome to the board! As for the girl you knew, is she still a JW? If so, would the same therapist adivse her to leave
today? Maybe another thing we haven't considered is; even when the JWs decide to go to a therapist, what if they can't afford it? It seems like a
trivial question, but I can't help wondering.
Cheers,
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Why is the WTBTS so against mental health professional treatment?
by Gill infollowing on from sandy's thread on her brother's pt, i wondered exactly why does the wtbts take such an opposing stand to professional mental health treatment?
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By now, I think everyone here realizes that the "colleague in Croatia" was a made up story by the WTS. The problem is, the dubs who believe this, like my mom who really need mental help, say that the WTS is telling the truth because they would not risk losing their everlasting life over telling a lie. In other words, they're telling the truth because they say they're telling the truth.
I'll use an example. Yesterday my mom told me that a close friend of hers, Sherry, at the KH died of stomach cancer. Mom said she didn't even know she was sick until she was dead. I said surely you must have noticed her losing weight, and she said that Sherry said she was on a diet, and didn't want us to worry. So I said: "So this 60 year old woman, who had spent her whole life in the truth, died of cancer after refusing ANY MEDICAL TREATMENT WHATSOEVER, and then she lied to everyone about it." Forget about blood transfusions, this woman never even set foot in a hospital. It's a wonder she made it to 60! But because she lied about her illness, wouldn't that mean she lost her everlasting life? So she not only suffered needlessly, SHE WON'T EVEN BE RESURECTED?
MY MOM HAD NO RESPONSE TO THIS!!
The dubs who really need mental help will never go see a therepast because they believe the WTS. It's not like I can drag her in kicking and screaming. And yet, incredibly, she watches Oprah and Dr. Phil, and she laughs at all the people who are trapped in a cult or abusive relationships! And she even does yoga to lose weight! But after all this, she still doesn't get a clue, and it's staring her right in the face!
So, my question is this: has anybody ever tried direct hypnosis on a dub? Does that sound too crazy? Will it work? And how would you ever get them to agree to it? Sorry, that was more than one question.
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independent thinking
by stephenw20 in1983 "avoid independent thinking .. how is such independent thinking manifested?
a common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by god's visible organization.
" {wt jan 15 1983 22}.
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Those who refuse to partipicate in their government, end up being governed by their inferiors.
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Happy Labor Day!
by sammielee24 infor those in the usa and canada, today is labor day!
have a good one and lets not forget those who worked hard to change the laws to enable us to have this time off!
for those in most other parts of the world, this is equal to your international workers day.
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Unfortunately, labor day doesn't apply to students. I still have homework, but I hope everyone else enjoys their Labor Day!
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Could this really be the TRUTH?
by purplesofa inan explanation of the genesis account
this is from a friend of mine that is not a baptised jw.
he was raised by a jw mother, unbelieving father.
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I'm confused, are you saying that God willingly created something that he knew would someday be beyond his control, assuming he is indeed omnipotent?
Respectfully yours,
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A Question about the Shunning Policy
by The wanderer inin either the early or middle 1990's, there was a watchtower article.
that spoke about not having association with any family members .
who were either disfellowshiped or disassociated living outside of.
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I suppose it is "unity at all costs," so anyone who is seen as fallen behind is left behind. Ironically, she was far ahead of the rest of the congregation. Sad, isn't it?
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Another Quote Worth Noting
by Outaservice inthe watchtower----april 1st, (april fools day .
"...............jehovah's witnesses have proven throughout the years to be hard-.
working, sober, thrifty and god-fearing citizens.
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Perhaps "sober" and "thrifty" are translated to perscription drug addicted and selfish
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Fascinating... and extremely effective on the subconscious mind. Asuming, of course, the subject has a conscious mind to begin with.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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Wow, by their fruits, you will know them. I guess that is also how we remember them. Having replaced Russell so quickly, and reading extensively on his character, or lack thereof, I wonder if Russell died of natural causes?
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