Posts by Khufu

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Witness accepts transfusion to save life.

by bigmouth in

my wife, who is studying midwifery, has just finished watching an episode of maternity ward wherein a dub by the name of yvette thompson was having a caesarean due to fibroids among other things.

she told the doctor she wouldn't have a transfusion because of being a jw.

her 'fiance' said he disagreed with her stand but he would intervene if need be.

Khufu

Ah, a TV show! Sorry, it had escaped my attention.

For cases of blood transfusion, a star-chamber tribunal used to be convened. Today, they can do without a trial. Why care about the charter of human rights? If God were to destroy the United Nations, where would the Watchtower Society appear?

They want to make the refusal of a transfusion appear as a matter of personal choice and individual conscience, but if so, why did they call me before a judicial comittee for having had a exchange of thoughts with ajwrb.org's elder Lee, whom they called an apostate?

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Witness accepts transfusion to save life.

by bigmouth in

my wife, who is studying midwifery, has just finished watching an episode of maternity ward wherein a dub by the name of yvette thompson was having a caesarean due to fibroids among other things.

she told the doctor she wouldn't have a transfusion because of being a jw.

her 'fiance' said he disagreed with her stand but he would intervene if need be.

Khufu

Big Mouth, thanks for the interesting story, but did that patient authorize you to publish her name? If not, she might sue you and your wife for breaching the professional secret. Be more careful!

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The Final Truth?

by Mistah MOJO in

"the final truth is that there is no final truth.

" this statement was contained in a recent email from a close friend who is an existentialist, and by extension a nihilist.

how many here would agree with this?

Khufu

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Why the Watchtower Society Interprets Genesis Non-Literally

by AlanF in

a literal interpretation of this passage shows that the author of the passage viewed the earth as the center of the universe, with the sun and moon going around it.

just why does the watchtower society view passages such as in joshua 10:12-14 as not literal?

the creation account in genesis and exodus.

Khufu

Young-earth creationism was a hot political topic in Russell's time. I don't know much about the early history of the WTS, but I suspect Russell was not involved in that issue because it is of interest to the religious right, not to an Armageddon time-calculator like him.

If so, then the non-literal reading of Genesis 1 was just a way to dodge the issue. That way, the WTS could proudly point to its rejection of literal creationism and say: See, how reasonable we are?

Am I wrong?

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Why the Watchtower Society Interprets Genesis Non-Literally

by AlanF in

a literal interpretation of this passage shows that the author of the passage viewed the earth as the center of the universe, with the sun and moon going around it.

just why does the watchtower society view passages such as in joshua 10:12-14 as not literal?

the creation account in genesis and exodus.

Khufu

Your comments are very much interesting Leolaia, as usual. Thank you so much. You're absolutely amazing. I've been asking myself how I should take the Genesis account of creation, and this thread is a great help.

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Why call themselves "Christian"?

by poppers in

never having been a jw i don't quite understand why they call themselves "christians".

if jesus is not god and is not to be worshipped as such, but is something "lesser", then it doesn't make sense to think of themselves as christians.

to claim to be christian, then, seems to me to make themselves hypocrites from the very beginning.

Khufu

You said it. To JWs trinitarians are not Christians, and to trinitarians JWs are not Christians. More of the same sectarianism.

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Why the Watchtower Society Interprets Genesis Non-Literally

by AlanF in

a literal interpretation of this passage shows that the author of the passage viewed the earth as the center of the universe, with the sun and moon going around it.

just why does the watchtower society view passages such as in joshua 10:12-14 as not literal?

the creation account in genesis and exodus.

Khufu

The first chapter of Genesis can't of course be taken for what it claims to be: a factual, historical account of the creation in six days of 24 hours. On the other hand, reading it the non-litteral way is a twisting of scriptures. I'm forced to conclude that the unknown writer of that passage simply wrote what he thought was a reasonable account of the creation.

That man is often ridiculed for having written that light preceded its source, the sun. Yet I don't think he was so stupid to fail to see that light emanates from the sun. This makes his account even more intriguing.

He also had some good, valid, points. For instance, mankind is only one family, and life is more than organized dust. I personaly add the fact that we have been created by a caring God.

Why not simply take the human factor into consideration when reading the Bible? For example, I've always been amazed to see how so many Christians take every verse in Paul's letters to first century Christians as a sacred pronouncement of God, while Paul himself insisted so much that he wasn't God and could err.

I personaly believe that the Bible is an authentic account of God's dealings with mankind, but as men wrote it, it naturaly contains human errors. Why are many Christians so much uncomfortable with that fact?

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Were YOU Depressed When You Were A Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've seen soooo many witnesses taking meds or alcohol because of unhappiness and depression.

i know of one woman who regularly gos to her shrink and is the most depressed person that i know of.

personally, i believe it's because a jw can never do enough to satisfy god or the elders....what do you think?

Khufu

Not having the freedom to be myself is what depressed me at times. I experienced a great feeling of liberation when finally coming to the conclusion that that machine couldn't possibly be God's organization.

There were various other reasons for depression: failed missionaries, single sisters, etc. And there were tragic cases, like that mother who committed suicide after the death of her son who had refused blood.

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BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS Twisting a life-affirming law into death

by Terry in

turning a life affirming rule into a death-dealing policy is an amazing accomplishment.

we can thank the watchtower society for a mindset which makes this possible.. i've gone into great detail before about the watchtower blood policy itself.

it is a blatant and deliberate publicity stunt which takes the rather simple prohibitions of the laws of noah for gentiles on murder .

Khufu

What a post Leolaia!

Thank you so much for your research. It's a wealth of good sense. Have you published it any place? I think it would have helped me a lot if I had read such a study at the time I was considering to become a witness.

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BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS Twisting a life-affirming law into death

by Terry in

turning a life affirming rule into a death-dealing policy is an amazing accomplishment.

we can thank the watchtower society for a mindset which makes this possible.. i've gone into great detail before about the watchtower blood policy itself.

it is a blatant and deliberate publicity stunt which takes the rather simple prohibitions of the laws of noah for gentiles on murder .

Khufu

Plain good sense should dictate that life is more precious/sacred than blood. The reality is above its symbol of course.

I marvel that I took me years as a witness before I realized that simple truth. It shows to what extend I had surrendered my thinking abilities to the WTS. And so have millions of others!

Yes, Terry, what sort of respect for life is shown by the WTS in this issue? Their point is that life is of no importance when it comes to obeying God. But God's commandment is precisely that we should respect life... So much confusing!

I like the way you summarize the command on blood. I suggest: "Don't be bloodthirsty."