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the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

I will return here tomorrow, JAH willing, and will provide more instruction to those that are willing to read and listen. Have a great evening and sleep well knowing that your deliverance in near at hand. The "SIGN OF JONAH" will be explained when I return with scriptural backing.

Hint: Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three day and those in the city of Ninevah were forgiven after they repented. Christ was in the belly, or heart of the earth, and all those upon the earth of mankind will be forgiven, not destroyed; when Jesus Christ arrives.

With Much Love and Respect,

Estephan Leuese; out of the East of Eden, and the Twelve Tribes of Israel, The Tribe of Levi

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

Hallelujah, Hosianna, we will eagerly be awaiting your return, oh great Messiah. Return to us, thine faithful flock, provide us with spiritual food, be our shepherd, lead us thru the valley of death and despair, hold thine hand over us, thine people. Amen

I love you too.......

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

I will return here tomorrow, JAH willing, and will provide more instruction to those that are willing to read and listen. Have a great evening and sleep well knowing that your deliverance in near at hand. The "SIGN OF JONAH" will be explained when I return with scriptural backing.

Hint: Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three day and those in the city of Ninevah were forgiven after they repented. Christ was in the belly, or heart of the earth, and all those upon the earth of mankind will be forgiven, not destroyed; when Jesus Christ arrives.

With Much Love and Respect,

Estephan Leuese; out of the East of Eden, and the Twelve Tribes of Israel, The Tribe of Levi

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777,

Without addressing any of my questions, except one, you said:

"...Also, providing food at the proper time occurs during the end time when Jesus Christ takes his throne."

When do you think Jesus Christ takes his throne? What do you mean by "during the end time"? If you have already written or explained these views somewhere let me know please. I don't mean to make you rewrite your views if you have already put them on a website or in a series of previous posts.

1. The Kingdom took full reign January 3rd 2005, and was born on November 22, 2004. JAH the Almighty begin to fulfill His promises on March 11th, 2005 which is 42 months after the events of September 11th 2001. You can research the writings of Brownboy in order to look back at the writings from the days before I knew that I was chosen.
Also, can you tell me what draws a person like yourself to a site such as this? As an ex-JW do you feel that other ex-JWs are a more likely audience, a more necessary audience, the nearest available conduit back to the Governing Body? Are you trying to reach JWs here? Confused JWs who left for reasons you think could be similar to your own? Do you feel that there was something obviously missing in ex-JWs who found their way here instead of back to the JWs, and that you have something that perfectly fills that "gap"?

2. Those on this forum are seekers of truth whereas they have also been labeled as apostates unrighteously. JAH led me here in order to provide food in like manner to Christ being sent to the lost sheep out of the House of Israel back in the days of Christ.

You added: "A composite of many signs have been fulfilled and I relayed many message upon this forum and also to the governing body as instructed by JAH."

You must feel that the governing body has some responsibility because of some past, present or potential relationship with "truth". I think they are about as indifferent to truth as most any other religious group.

3. The teachings of the W.T.S. are worthy in the fact that they avoid mens wars and teach others in like manner. Those in the Middle East in the birthplace of Jesus Christ have been misled in a large way by false prophets, and Jesus Christ will return to rescue them from those that wage war against them. All will be Christians in due season as Christ is the TRUE MESSIAH.

You said: "Please tell me, what is your belief as to fulfillment of any prophecy. How much longer cam man continue to reign upon the earth in wickedness? Which do you prefer, that the Kingdom take full reign or that man continues to rule?"

My personal beliefs are irrelevant. My personal preferences should also be irrelevant. There has always been the "ego of the current generation" to think that it must happen for them. This was already noticed by Bible commentators for hundreds of years. Each generation since Jesus has therefore produced the necessary prophets to make the claims that appeal to their generation's ego.

4. We live in the time of a wicked generation having no natural affection for their loved ones. They walk upon the earth without the rule of law doing whatever they feel, without the concern for anyone else, in fulfillment of what is written in the book of Timothy. It is not anyones ego that has been built up wanting righteouness to dwell upon the earth. It is their right as Godly persons in want of fulfillment of prophecy to take place.

You quoted the NWT: 20 But on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them and said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness, 21 neither will people be saying, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For, look! the kingdom of God is in YOUR midst.”

I doubt that you are aware that the idea of "striking" observableness is quite nearly the opposite of the meaning of the Greek. The Greek refers especially to things that one might attempt to perceive no matter whether they were barely perceptable or not. "Striking observableness" was used here because it is an attempt to get rid of a Biblical idea that goes against the thrust of a major JW doctrine. The idea in Luke is that you can't observe the coming of the Kingdom of God through any perceived signs. Matthew, Mark and Luke all happen to agree on this point when they report that Jesus spoke of wars, earthquakes and famines all as things that might MISLEAD someone into thinking the end was upon them, when in actuality "the end is not yet". That's why the same context in Luke could report Jesus as saying: "Do not go after anyone who says the time is at hand." Yet, one of the most popular religious books in the world around 1914 was called just that: "The Time is at Hand". It was part of a series of books intended to convince people of that very thing Jesus said not to follow. Those books by Charles Taze Russell spawned an entire religion that could sweep all its many false predictions and errors away simply by refocusing attention on questions like yours above.

"How much longer cam man continue to reign upon the earth in wickedness? Which do you prefer, that the Kingdom take full reign or that man continues to rule?"

I have no reason to get sucked into such ideas that happen to be precisely the kinds of ideas warned against in Matthew, Mark and Luke.

Relative to the verse in Luke which many JWs mistakenly think is about "striking observableness", you added: "The Kingdom arrived in the heavens and has been established. A spirit is not visible to man and this is what Jesus Christ meant when he spoke to the pharisees."

What you say might make sense if you are saying the Kingdom had already arrived when Jesus had said those words. If anyone thinks he meant some time around 1914 or today, then of course, your explanation would make no sense. It would be senseless. So, may I ask if you believe the Kingdom arrived back when Jesus stated those words? Since a spirit is invisible, does this fit the idea that there would be no signs to look for after that point? Or do you still think that one might observe signs after that date that would indicate the coming of the kingdom? Or do you believe that we are in the same situation as the wicked generation that would get no sign beyond the sign of Jonah - referring to Jesus in the belly of the earth for parts of three days?

5. Do not get caught up in the semantics but pay close attention to the times that we are living in. Try placing yourself in the area of the Middle East in your way of thinking, and try to comprehend what the people in the region are going through in tribulation. It would then be easier for you to understand the fulfillment of prophecy.

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

The last time Esteban was here, he blamed mans pollution of the environment also for earthquakes...

Why would GOD cause them if He intends to repair the earth? Use your thinking ability with sound reasoning. The correct spelling of my name is Estephan, like Stephan

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777,

You said: "The meaning of the words is inspired, I am subject to error as a human. Aren't you being a bit critical?"

Yes. I was being a bit critical. You have a great interest in recent chronology. I have an interest in psychiatric analysis. (My daughter is currently studying for the profession.) I want to know more about how you think.

But I'm also always interested in how someone clarifies mistakes after claiming any form of inspiration - even partial inspiration as the WTBS claims with terms like "spirit-directed". Having been a JW the subject still interests me.

You said: "It is easier to correct my error than try to use it as a basis of finding fault."

I did not intend any more than to see how serious you were about this business of inspiration.

You asked: "How would you put me to the test? Is there something you would like to know about the Heavenly Father that is not written?"

Of course. Millions of things I'd love to know. For example: Did the Heavenly Father inspire Jude to quote from the book of Enoch because only part of the book of Enoch was inspired, or because all of the book of Enoch was inspired?

And here's another one on inspiration. There are a few places where the writers of portions of the Christian Greek Scriptures (NT) quoted an existing Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures ("LXX") rather than the Hebrew Scriptures directly. In a few cases the argumentation only really works because the Greek translation ("LXX") was different than the Hebrew, and their point they made in the NT would not have made sense based on the Hebrew as it has come down to us, especially through the Masoretic Hebrew. Did the Heavenly Father inspire them to do this because the Hebrew, at least as we now know it, was deficient when compared with the Greek "LXX"?

All scripture is inspired as written. Mens interpretation has caused many to be misled. Pay close attention to the "meaning" of the words written by Jesus Christ when he said "If your eye is simple then your whole body will be bright". A simple phrase out of the bible misunderstood has given breath to many, many, misunderstandings of the scripture that have caused many divisions, even with the Christian faiths. You will find many scriptures referencing one another in order to provide testimony to the word of GOD as being true and inspired. There are always a minimum of two inspired writings within the bible written years apart in order to know that a scripture is inspired.

The need to peer into the meaning of complex words derived by man takes away from the wisdom of the scriptures, which basically teaches man to love one another. This is the basis of law; Love the Father in the heavens, which means to obey His laws, in turn providing the foundation for sound principles in living your life. Also if you love your neighbor as yourself, you would never bring harm to anyone.

If you follow the simple basics of all that Christ taught, you would be happier and learn how to endure in a wicked environment ruled by satan and man.

Just for clarification, I do not represent the W.T.S. and/or their teachings, but belong to the Almighty along with Jesus Christ as one whom has been bought out of the earth with the blood sacrifice of Christ. You can peer into my thinking as much as you care to, however, all that will come from my mind are sound teachings in the principle of LAW. Ask and you will recieve, as I am open to anyone that cares to know me.

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777,

You said: "You took the words written too far. This is how seeds of misunderstanding are planted."
I had few doubts that you didn't want your words taken too far. But I agree that it makes a case for how easy it was for you to plant those seeds of misunderstanding by connecting earthly catastrophes and occurrences with heavenly judgments.

You said: "This was only an example of earthquakes that continue to occur, along with much flooding. Please recall the great flood in December of 2005 and also the flooding in the New Orleans area."

In actuality you didn't reference it as "only an example of earthquakes that continue to occur". In fact, you presented it as an example of "creating great floods as in the days of Noah". It's as if you had missed the context of the reference in Matthew to "the days of Noah" and thought that literal FLOODING was the point, and not the SURPRISE with which the judgment came upon them. ("they took no note.") You do something similar later in the same post when you loosely imply that there is a "flood" connection in Revelation where it speaks about a voice that is as the "sound of many waters". If this is the reason for the underscore you made in that verse, it is another indication of a type of muddled thinking that can lead to imprudent, indiscreet and unwise predictions. I think most people might see in this a tendency to read something literal into what is merely a simile. It's not an uncommon problem in muddled Biblical exegesis and eisegesis.

You claim about yourself: "Please recall the great flood in December of 2005 and also the flooding in the New Orleans area. I was witness to the floods before they occured and even provided advanced messages of warning in part, to the governing body in New York by written word, and also by phone calls."

I'm sure that calling some governing body in New York would have been at least as valuable as calling FEMA in Washington, DC. I suspect that a prediction about the great flood in December of 2005 wouldn't have been much help since it actually had already occurred in December 2004. (If you are speaking of the tsunami.)

I'd like you think about something, though. Please think deeply and honestly about this question. Is it possible that you also WOULD have been a "witness in advance" of this most recent POTENTIAL tsunami flood that you attached a news article about, but which did not actually occur? Recall that you didn't present this as a reference to ongoing earthquakes but as evidence of the "creating of great floods as in the days of Noah". Is it possible you also "witnessed" this in advance as you witnessed the flooding in New Orleans in advance?

I ask this because you seem to believe your predictions. When many cases of those who believe they can predict such things are studied more closely, those who truly believe themselves are often doing something they don't realize. They are "filtering" out the failed predictions. What would have been a true prediction, and "proof" of divine authorship, now becomes a quickly dismissed, unwarranted thought of personal, unknown or even sinister origin. In other words, I think it is quite possible that you may actually believe your ability because you filter out failed predictions and only keep the successful ones. (And of course, many people predicted the New Orleans disaster from several years right up to several hours before it happened.)

You said: "Many great disasters have occured and cannot be denied. These were great signs as to the time and season in relation to the Kingdom of GOD, and the arrival of Jesus Christ."

For me, and hopefully for those who might otherwise be misled, this statement is evidence that you don't understand what Matthew, Mark and Luke were trying to report about the nature of signs and their relation to the "kingdom of God". Granted that there are varying possible interpretations of Jesus' reported words, but think about this verse from Luke 17:20–24 "Once Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, and he answered, 'The kingdom of God is not coming with things that can be observed; nor will they say, "Look, here it is!" or "There it is!" For, in fact, the kingdom of God is among you.'

You probably know that some translations correctly get this idea across in English by saying: "the coming of the kingdom of God is predicted with signs."

The events that occurred upon the earth were written years ago. I was put into place as one to bear witness of the fulfillment of prophecy. Also, providing food at the proper time occurs during the end time when Jesus Christ takes his throne. A composite of many signs have been fulfilled and I relayed many message upon this forum and also to the governing body as instructed by JAH.

Please tell me, what is your belief as to fulfillment of any prophecy. How much longer cam man continue to reign upon the earth in wickedness? Which do you prefer, that the Kingdom take full reign or that man continues to rule?

20 But on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them and said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness, 21 neither will people be saying, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For, look! the kingdom of God is in YOUR midst.”

The Kingdom arrived in the heavens and has been established. A spirit is not visible to man and this is what Jesus Christ meant when he spoke to the pharisees.

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777,
This is a bit confusing. You say: "Everything I [777] say and do is under inspiration as JAH is with me at all times. . . .

I only write what I am instructed to write as I do nothing of my own accord."

Isn't it odd that JAH inspired you to write about a great flood in December 2005 that actually happened a year earlier. Is JAH such a poor timekeeper. I predict that you will claim that he inspired you to say 2004 but didn't control your typo.

=) The meaning of the words is inspired, I am subject to error as a human. Aren't you being a bit critical? It is easier to correct my error than try to use it as a basis of finding fault. How would you put me to the test? Is there something you would like to know about the Heavenly Father that is not written?

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777,
are you saying the words you are typing in this forum are written under inspiration? I find that hard to believe, however my convictions are far separate to yours, but that no problem.
After you accepted your anointing and revelation of heaven, do you write down the vision afterwards? Or do you write while visualising them?
The bible was cannoned by the Catholic Church during the great apostasy. Other books or letters where declared as falsehood. Since not everyone will accept your writings as inspired of god, what do you consider the apocryphal writings to be? Are they inspired? Has your attention been directed to the context of these scriptures?
Thank you so much for you replies, I appreciate it.

Everything I say and do is under inspiration as JAH is with me at all times. You believe what you choose to believe, as I am here only to witness truth and bear witness to the Father, in like manner of Jesus Christ. I only write what I am instructed to write as I do nothing of my own accord. I recollect visions as necessary, as they will all be done away with whereas I will learn new truth, and instructions from Jesus Christ under authority of JAH the Almighty. All from the Catholic church and any other faith are mere men in the Eyes of GOD. GOD the Almighty is the Sovereign and Supreme Law Giver. All books in the bible are inspired and have been proven to be true by archeological findings, and also be fulfillment of prophetic writings. Many faiths recognize the time of the end, which is coming to its final completion. You are welcome for everything you are giving thanks for directly from the Almighty in the Heavens.

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Truth and Understanding

by 777 in

the slave is not greater than the master.. jah the almighty was the first sacrifice as the master, where jesus christ was the second as holy or perfect sacrifices.

jah the almighty had to sacrifice loved ones in order to raise a perfect family in discipline and righteousness.

without rebellion there would be no need for discipline, there was rebellion, therefore need for discipline.. .

777

777
sorry, in my last post some pieces were missing, I don’t know why!
I have no interest in challenging the truth of your statements; I always take time to ponder over matters. I always wanted to communicate with a person like you.
True, the NWT is easy to read and understand, yet I find Franze’s work deceptive. Be careful!
Many claim to be guided by spirit(s) like Rutherford, Woodworth also Johannes Greber. Woodworth (WT director) claimed to have battled with demons for not taking JFR’s vows. J. Greber’s medium claimed to be inspired by repentant-fallen-angles in the book “Women and Angels”. Do you think there is any truth in this?
Also, how much time did it take for you and your son to be in the spirit realm? Can I imagine the receiving of your visions to be split seconds, hours or days?

In order for visions to come from GOD, and in order for it to be inspired, the person that recieves them has to be a witness in righteousness. I stand against all that is unholy or unrighteous. The words typed by me are all inspired, and can be proven by the message of truth that they bear. A wicked teaching comes from a wicked man, whereas a righteous from a righteous. A house divided cannot stand. You can shrug aside all false teachings by the fruitage that it bears.

What is the meaning of inherited sin? An innocent child that has done no wrong cannot be held responsible in judgement for the sins of their fathers can they? I have insight, therefore the words written will hold true to the "True Person of GOD the ALMIGHTY".
It has taken a number of years for my trials, and the first time I witnessed a strange occurance was in the year 1994, seven years before the events of September 11th. Everything given to me occurs in numbers of years, days, hours, seconds, in perfection and calculation by GOD. I am witness to this.
My first occurance of being in the spirit realm was extremely intense as I saw many fear inspiring visions of demons, and also those inspired in love. They are vivid visions in my mind, and also in the real world. I saw demons depicted with fearful eyes, while the angels with the eyes of an eagle. I also saw the eyes of JAH, within my own, in the mirror. Many times a soft glowing light would appear with angelic voice bringing me messages of happiness, and JAH even caused a spider web to appear to me as an angelic form. All visions are miraculous. I continue to this day to receive dreams and visions, but not as intense. This is symbolic of Jesus Christ ready to appear upon the earth of mankind. My visions will be removed when Christ arrives.