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  Public prosecutor's office starts investigation in the Netherlands

  by fulano in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/5416472/openbaar-ministerie-onderzoekt-seksueel-misbruik-bij-jehovahs-getuigen.html.

  i hope someone could find an english translation.

  i have no time at the moment..

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  jochie

  https://youtu.be/FKQtD7EcyZA
  
  
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  Dutch Branch office response to the motion accepted by Parliament: "an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito"

  by jochie in

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  2. child-abuse

  today a large article was published in a dutch newspaper 'dagblad van het noorden'.

  it is about frank huiting, the reclaimed voices foundation and the adopted motion in parliament.

  the branch office has given a reaction:.

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  Today a large article was published in a Dutch newspaper 'Dagblad van het Noorden'. It is about Frank Huiting, the Reclaimed Voices Foundation and the adopted motion in Parliament. The Branch office has given a reaction:

  According to the organisation of Jehovah's Witnesses, an investigation desired by the entire Parliament into sexual abuse within the church, is disproportionate. "The Reclaimed Voices Foundation says that this is a structural problem within our Church. We do not identify with this at all," says spokesman Michel van Hilten. According to him, the scale of the problem is not larger than elsewhere in society.

  They therefore refuse to cooperate in such an investigation. "Have you read that motion? The first three paragraphs are rattling assumptions. We are certainly not going to cooperate on the basis of assumptions. There are all kinds of stories about us, that we have a closed structure and that there are many cases of child abuse. But we have a handful of incidents and reports of abuse each year. Reclaimed Voices can only arrive with 301 cases if those issues have been taken out of context, through double counting or if other types of issues are counted as abuse.

  Jehovah's Witnesses refuse contact with Reclaimed Voices. "No, we are not going to go along with that. They have hired a lawyer, they work through the media, and the phase of constructive consultation has long since ended.

  The Church sees no reason for internal research either: "We have seriously considered it, though. We are not an apathetic organisation, without any self-reflection. We have set up a very sound protocol for this. Our protocol is a compilation of our efforts to protect children within our community. Because our protocol has been posted on our website, everyone now has access to our working methods. Once again, there are many calls, without any knowledge of the facts. Such an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito."
  
  source: Dagblad van het Noorden / Reclaimed Voices
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  There is Important Dutch News: majority in Dutch Parliament require an investigation into child abuse within JWs

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  there is important dutch news: majority in dutch parliament require an investigation into child abuse within jwshttp://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/politiek/tweede-kamer-eist-onafhankelijk-onderzoek-naar-misbruik-jehovahs-getuigen&hl=en&langpair=auto%7cen&tbb=1&ie=utf-8.

  the lower house requires independent investigation into abuse of jehovah's witnesses .

  june 28, 2018 18:56 .

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  jochie

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og1qo2-Kco4&t=31s
  
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  Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, the title says it all.

  the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

  unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

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  jochie

  Read your PM and answered it ;)
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  Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, the title says it all.

  the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

  unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

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  jochie

  @Gorbatchov,
  
  since I am the chairman of RV I am also interested in why you haven't a good feeling about us.
  Please explain.
  
  We try to be direct but also respectfull, open, transparant, sticking to the facts.
  We try to be without grudge toward JW's
  
  I am also open to discuss this with you in private in Dutch
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  Dutch Jehovah’s Witnesses reject calls for independent inquiry into sexual abuse

  by jochie in

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  2. child-abuse

  the jehovah’s witnesses community in the netherlands will not hold an independent inquiry into the sexual abuse of members, despite being urged to do so by justice minister sander dekker.read more at: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-calls-for-independent-inquiry-into-sexual-abuse/item in dutch news on tv (english subs available)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvtll8wjca&feature=youtu.be.

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  The Jehovah’s Witnesses community in the Netherlands will not hold an independent inquiry into the sexual abuse of members, despite being urged to do so by justice minister Sander Dekker.
  
  Read more at: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-calls-for-independent-inquiry-into-sexual-abuse/
  
  item in Dutch news on tv (English subs available)
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKVtLL8WjcA&feature=youtu.be
  
  
  
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  Have Watchtower changed their polices to report to police child sex abuse?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all.

  just speaking to a sister about the royal commission.. she said they they have now changed their guidelines so that they now report all to the police.. really?

  does anyone know if this is true?.

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  jochie

  The New Dutch version of the Child Safeguarding Policy (March 2018) says something differentlely than the BOE Letter of September 2017.
  
  But the accompanying letter in which this Child Safeguarding policy was introduced to the BOE it states that Elders should srictly follow the instructions in the september 2017 letter (and not the Child Safeguarding Policy).
  
  
  
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  Youtube (English subs) Dutch Government debate on JW Child Sexual Abuse

  by jochie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses' community was on the agenda of a meeting by dutch representatives.

  this is an editing of that meeting (only the relevant parts on jw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7r_8blcw7q.

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  jochie

  Child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses' community was on the agenda of a meeting by Dutch representatives.
  This is an editing of that meeting (only the relevant parts on JW)
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7r_8BlcW7Q
  
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  Late Night Show in the Netherlands - item about sexual absue and JWs

  by jochie in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://vimeo.com/256187135late night show in the netherlands, broadcasted 8 february 2018item about child sexual abuse within community of jehovah's witnessesenglish subtitles included.

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  jochie

  https://vimeo.com/256187135
  
  Late Night Show in the Netherlands, broadcasted 8 february 2018
  Item about child sexual abuse within community of Jehovah's Witnesses
  English subtitles included

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  Dutch government to discuss JW abuse issue Thursday 15 feb between 10.00 and 13.00 [live stream]

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thursday 15 februari 2018, between 10.00 and 13.00, a committee of the dutch house of representatives will discuss jw child abuse issues during a public meeting.. for those who speak dutch, you can follow along:.

  program: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/commissievergaderingen/details?id=2018a00016.

  live stream (video): https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/groen-van-prinstererzaal.

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  jochie

  I was in the public today. Before the discussion I had a conversation with some representatives and afterwards I spoke with the Dutch minister of Legal protection.
  
  The debate is here for download (only Dutch): https://debatgemist.tweedekamer.nl/debatten/kinderporno-en-kindermisbruik
  
  Iḿ working on editing the parts that are relevant to the childe abuse problem within JWs. I wil try to upload it tomorrow with English subs.