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  Governing Body member is in Australia right now!

  by Anonymous1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.

  i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.

  he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.

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  Lemonp

  Sent an email and I will call too, but is this information reliable?

  Thank you for reaching out with this information, in any case.
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  Does the .Org have the gall to ignore the RC?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been mulling over the options that the wt has to take in regard to child abuse.

  in my mind there are the following ones:.

  1. overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims.

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  Lemonp

  I agree with all your points Oublette!
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  Does the .Org have the gall to ignore the RC?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been mulling over the options that the wt has to take in regard to child abuse.

  in my mind there are the following ones:.

  1. overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims.

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  Lemonp

  Ok, back on topic, what options are there?
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  Does the .Org have the gall to ignore the RC?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been mulling over the options that the wt has to take in regard to child abuse.

  in my mind there are the following ones:.

  1. overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims.

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  Lemonp

  So i think...

  Iown Mylife has chosen Option 2

  
  

  Pistoff Has predicted Option 4/5

  
  

  cattails has gone for Option 4

  
  

  
  

  Should we set up a betting pool fund?
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  Does the .Org have the gall to ignore the RC?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been mulling over the options that the wt has to take in regard to child abuse.

  in my mind there are the following ones:.

  1. overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims.

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  Lemonp

  I have been mulling over the options that the WT has to take in regard to child abuse.

  In my mind there are the following ones:

  1. Overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims. (JW Broadcasting Special)
  

  2. Change nothing apart from mandatory reporting, denounce "Apostate Lies"

  3. Quietly change their worldwide system whilst denouncing "Apostate Lies"

  4. Change their system ONLY in Australia, denounce "Apostate Lies"

  5. Cut Australia loose as a lost cause, change nothing, get banned/fines, denounce "Apostate Lies" + "Persecution"

  Honestly I am fearful that they will go with option 4 or 5.

  The .Org NEVER admits to any wrongdoing. They have demonstrated extreme eagerness not to change at all. The PR in Australia surely cannot be salvaged, even with telling the R&F to close their eyes and block their ears.

  What do you think they will do? Any other possible options you think I have missed?
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  One of the most important questions.

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is enthralling having everything being dragged kicking and screaming into the light of day.

  however one of the most important things to ask is this:.

  is the rc evidence admissable in other countries and other courts?.

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  Lemonp

  It is enthralling having everything being dragged kicking and screaming into the light of day.
  

  
  

  However one of the most important things to ask is this:
  

  Is the RC evidence admissable in other countries and other courts?

  
  

  IF it is, then no future child abuse case could be defended. This would destroy the org.
  
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  Is the two-witness rule really unreasonable?

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm picturing a situation in which a savvy 12 year old doesn't like the house rules that mom's new husband has put into place.

  or something along that line.

  i can certainly agree that protection of children is paramount, but who protects the real victim in those cases?

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  Lemonp

  In theory it could be open to abuse by an accuser who has ill intent.

  However in cases of child abuse, when 99% of victims are truthful, why punish 99% for the sake of a theoretical 1%?

  And as said above, the police are in the best position to determine the validity of claims, NOT the Elders.
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  Highlight this fact: Royal Commission into *Institutional Responses* to Child Sexual Abuse

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have discussed this with a few jw relatives.

  all have tried to pass this off as a case to review a few bad cases.. highlight to them the name of the inquiry:.

  royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

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  Lemonp

  Sorry that they are navel gazing, just open your eyes! All the evidence used in the Public hearing is posted on the website. Hundreds of letters to the branch and elders, and best of all, the Shepherd the Flock book. All from a trustworthy and non "apostate" source.

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  I have been threatened by my devout family in a round about sort of way. I have had a bad time due to what I can only say is.........fear of facts. I don't feel so good right now.
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  A conversation with some one relating to the investigation in australia

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would relate a conversation i was having with a some what of a wishey washey jw.

  first of all i was sitting having breakfast this morning listening to the trial highlights provided by barbra anderson.

  i could just feel my blood boiling ( this was also combined that i was also feeling rather lousy from a cold).

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  Lemonp

  It is a Commission into INSTITUTIONAL RESPONSE to Child abuse.
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  Dissent on JW-Archive

  by bemused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the posts about the australian royal commission there have been several references to discussions on jw-archive.

  i'd not heard of that site, so checked it out.

  it seems to be used by many active jws - its tumblr style archive is full of pictures of jws doing their thing.

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  Lemonp

  yea links please