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  27 Questions

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been on and off the forum for a couple of years now.

  mostly lurking.. the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall was back in 2005 before i disassociated myself formally.. over the years i've kept up with the doctrinal changes and changes in practices.

  the problem is that because i haven't been practically experiencing these changes, much of the new information has not stuck clearly in my head.

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  6 - There has been a questions from readers addressing the rising annointed. They put it down to new people not understanding and people with mental problems.

  "Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors — including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance — might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know." Watchtower 2011 Aug 15 p.22

  
  

  23 - An upcoming WT study article now equates apostates with the Anti-Christ.

  
  

  24 - The last two months have been a doozy of new light. March Study Edition

  Types and Anti types have been thrown out the window.

  1919 is no longer the date that they received divine appointment. (not sure WHEN they received it now)

  More importantly now to be part of the "sheep" and not the "goats" of Jesus' parable the defining factor is support of the FDS
  

  Now the remaining living annointed will be raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation. (not sure if this means that no one is in heaven yet)
  
  
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  What was your eye opening moment?

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.

  i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.

  i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.

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  When I learned that some people genuinely believe that animals will all become vegetarian.

  I couldn't fathom the stupidity to disregard every shred of information on how finely tuned the ecosystem is.

  Secondly when I read up on the bans on oral sex, and how that had been enforced with NO SCRIPTURAL BACKING WHATSOEVER even DF'ing and reprovals for something that the org has absolutely no business being in.
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  New Light on HOLIDAYS and BIRTHDAYS? (September 2015 Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower-- simplified study edition, september 2015, "is your conscience a reliable guide?":.

  in ancient rome, some christians had different opinions about certain foods and celebrations.

  what advice did paul give them?

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  haha WHY? They will say "we are told that Bdays and Xmas are bad"... Dont try to make them think about what they believe!!
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  New Light on HOLIDAYS and BIRTHDAYS? (September 2015 Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower-- simplified study edition, september 2015, "is your conscience a reliable guide?":.

  in ancient rome, some christians had different opinions about certain foods and celebrations.

  what advice did paul give them?

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  Yes, that sums it up.

  Every so often we get articles about respecting others' conscience.

  The point of the article is the healthcare choices. The ancient celebrations were an example relating to this subject, not the subject of celebrations.

  In my area it is common for people to recommend certain alternative healthcare (as uneducated people like to do) so I think the article points to this. It has come up in recent assemblies before as well.
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  The new focus on This Generation is 70 C.E., Not Today

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the very latest writes about "this generation.

  " looks like they are preparing to change it again -- now the focus is on 70 c.e., instead of modern times:.

  jesus--the way book (2015), page 254 and pages 258-259:.

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  They look to be slowly not mentioning it and being vague.

  I predict in a few years' time they will be trotting out the "Our publications have not mentioned the Generation for some time...Bla bla bla" spiel that accompanies most new light

  To quote from the recent type and antitype change: "However, in recent years we have not drawn such comparisons. Why not?"
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  Reasons there is no God

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, lets assume that god created everything as is, with no evolution involved.

  this is what jw's teach based on a singular vague verse in genesis.

  made according to their types.

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  @LAWHFol

  The books you are quoting from are not considered inspired by the JW's. Where do they say that they believe in Jasher?
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  Reasons there is no God

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, lets assume that god created everything as is, with no evolution involved.

  this is what jw's teach based on a singular vague verse in genesis.

  made according to their types.

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  Ok, lets assume that God created everything as is, with no evolution involved. This is what JW's teach based on a singular vague verse in Genesis. Made according to their types

  THEN, the flood! Anything that is alive today would have to have been purposely saved by being in the Ark.

  Noah didn't collect the animals, remember they came to him by the divine Will. Animals came to him

  So all animals are alive today due to the choice of God, twice over.

  
  

  Satan didn't corrupt any animals, there is ZERO scriptural proof of this. Surely this would warrant a single mention somewhere if it happened?

  Satan didn't create any new animals, God alone is Creator.
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  Real estate buying, why are the GB doing this?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watching the documentary going clear, i noticed several parallels with the gb.

  one of which was that in recent times they are focusing their efforts on buying property.

  i don't understand what the purpose of this is?

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  As part of being a "Non-Profit" an organization must show that it spends all that it receives (more or less) on projects to benefit the community/its cause.

  So as not to have piles of cash in the bank, you can tie up these assets in real estate in the guise of various projects "for the benefit of members"

  Should the need arise the property and buildings can be sold off, for a profit and free of tax, to gain access to the invested monies.
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  587 vs 607: JW sources only

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest jw podcast has inspired me to update the copypasta comment that i post anytime this topic comes up.. i have formatted it to more closely follow the wonderful www.jwfacts.com table.

  i have also added a few more links directly to the jw online library.

  "evil-merodach reigned two years" w65 1/1 p. 29.

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  Does What We Say Here Or In Person Really Help JWs To Get Out Of The Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if we are in the congregation, do you think our comments or questions actually reach elders or others in the congregation?

  do our comments on this board affect witnesses to the point of questioning their faith?

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  Lemonp

  Yes I'd say so.

  I'm born in and baptized.

  I started reading 2 months ago searching for questions.

  Now I know that it is all a lie, I always had my suspicions but finding solid evidence helps!