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ha ha ... 'we' got a mention on coronation street.
fizz (the plump girl with the ginger hair) tells her friend toya battersby that her mum used to tell them they were jehovahs witnesses so she didn't have to but them christmas and birthday presents.. lol
LOL, for some crazy reason I recall an X-Files episode where a farmer answers the door to find FBI agents Skully and Mulder on his porch. Skully identifies herself as "Special Agent for the FBI" and the farmer asks, "is that the Jehovah's Witnesses?" to which she replies, "No, Sir, we are with the FBI." Mulder immediately reaches into his suit blazer pocket as he quips with a hint of sarcasm, "but I can offer you a free issue of the Watchtower."
Derrick
you, farkel and others continue to mete out unfair assessments of the position i have taken because it apparently is out of sync with your worldview.
also, that remark implying that simon tolerates my posts as if my expressed beliefs are a nuisance on this forum are putting words in his mouth.
you seem to think that it's inappropriate to express views on jehovahs-witness.com that don't support the specific partylines of two major camps: partyline jehovah's witnesses as represented by the watchtower society or farkelline ex-jehovah's witnesses with strong steinhaugist underpinnings.
You, Farkel and others continue to mete out unfair assessments of the position I have taken because it apparently is out of sync with your worldview. Also, that remark implying that Simon tolerates my posts as if my expressed beliefs are a nuisance on this forum are putting words in his mouth. You seem to think that it's inappropriate to express views on Jehovahs-Witness.com that don't support the specific partylines of two major camps: partyline Jehovah's Witnesses as represented by the Watchtower Society or Farkelline ex-Jehovah's Witnesses with strong Steinhaugist underpinnings.
Fact of the matter is that I never claimed to have the answers. Sometimes I even find myself struggling to find the right questions. I accept many of the beliefs of the faith that I was baptized into without abandoning it wholesale and that seems to be a major problem with you guys. It's a no brainer the elders would not tolerate my lack of unquestioning loyalty so why do you keep repeating this sorry fact?
Also, what's all this criticism about my taking the "high road"? You seem to take personal offense at everything I say. When I take a stand on some moral issue, it's as if I climbed over a fence onto the grounds of an estate, and the sound of a distant backdoor slams, then packs of trained Dobermans barking furiously in the distance growing louder. With this sort of welcome wagon every time I set foot on Simon's estate, why is it that I get the distinct feeling you want me to go away?
Would it satisfy you if I shut up until such time that I accepted your specific beliefs? Now if the answer to that is in the affirmative, next question: if the so-called "apologists" on this forum (self included) were to hypothetically accept your worldviews exclusively from this point forward, then will you at least have the courtesy to equip myself, ScoobySnax and others with approved, regulation pom-poms and cheerleading outfits (which I suspect are a pair of cute tight shorts for the men, and for the ladies thigh hugging miniskirts so high they are advised to buy hair-removal cream) naturally in proper Farkel-approved team colours?
Thanks so much.
Derrick
many on this site focus on the society's negative aspects.
it's as if many of you are afraid to mention anything positive just in case it might reveal that jehovah's witnesses are humans who keep trying, even after various human failings, to make a positive impact on this world.. don't you agree that it's fair to give them credit when due?
then read on.
Thanks, ScoobySnax. A metaphor came to my mind as I read your reply. Your kindness shown to myself and others represents one of many tiny but significant ice cubes that miraculously survived its perilous journey down this raging river of molten lava. I have observed those who speak independently are quickly outnumbered by crowds of angry respondents who want to stomp them down. It's a real-life horror drama the film version which could be named "Night Of The Spiritually Living Dead." Mobs seem to form and gravitate to topics such as this one. They feast together on visitors, and vent emotional steam at anything that seems to speak kindly of their arch-nemesis the Watchtower Society.
I appreciate your kind words toward others on this forum such as myself, thus demonstrating your complete lack of spiritually suffocating bias. It's obvious so many suffer deep seated biases, isn't it? Bias is often the byproduct of fattened egos. Little do they know these traits starve the soul of oxygen, preventing mental, emotional and spiritual growth. These traits smother the ability to think outside the box. Poisonous carbon monoxide is the main byproduct of this negativity, and we know what happens to those who breath its fumes, i.e., emotional retardation, loss of common sense and the ability to think logically, inability to clearly reason, and a host of spiritual maladies. It's truly a very sad situation, ScoobySnax! Let us pray that God helps reclaim these many lives who have succumbed to the spiritually depraved environment on the internet where people actually glamorize spiritual death and life outside of God's Kingdom. Many are discovering the hard way all glitters is not gold as these promoters promised them.
Derrick
many on this site focus on the society's negative aspects.
it's as if many of you are afraid to mention anything positive just in case it might reveal that jehovah's witnesses are humans who keep trying, even after various human failings, to make a positive impact on this world.. don't you agree that it's fair to give them credit when due?
then read on.
The anger is so great toward the Watchtower Society on this forum that the proverbial winds carry the screams clear to Heaven no doubt.
The greatest healing that can take place here is for those of you who are burning with anger and rage toward the Society to allow God's love to triumph in the final hour.
As they will never forgive you this side of Armageddon, you all must forgive them. This is the time for the former "students" to show they are greater than their "masters" when it comes to the true spirit of Christ.
As long as many of you continue to harbor hatred for them in your hearts, and others of you nurture anger and rage towards the "Borg," you will never leave your cocoons and fly free toward your destinies.
"I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate." (Luke Skywalker; Star Wars Episode VI, Return of the Jedi - 1983)
Derrick
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Edited by - Derrick on 3 December 2002 9:48:47
i am not by any stretch of the imagination a 'watchtower apologist.
' your recent assessment of me in this regard not only missed the bullseye but strayed so far off course it almost hit innocent onlookers.
then why am i giving the watchtower society unbiased treatment by (gulp) pointing out their positive aspects not just accentuating the negative?.
AGuest wrote:Religion... in whatever form it takes... is the "opium" of the masses, Rick. It provides the "sleep" that earthling man uses to keep earthling man... under his control.
Point well taken. "Religion is a snare and a racket," wouldn't you agree?
Derrick
i am not by any stretch of the imagination a 'watchtower apologist.
' your recent assessment of me in this regard not only missed the bullseye but strayed so far off course it almost hit innocent onlookers.
then why am i giving the watchtower society unbiased treatment by (gulp) pointing out their positive aspects not just accentuating the negative?.
larc wrote:As I read Derrick's post I get the impression that he is calling for objectivity when discussing the JWs. I think that is a good approach. I do think that some good came from my being raised as a Witness. It was not all bad.
Thank you. I appreciate knowing you understood the post's purpose, and your candor in commenting about your experience growing up as a Witness to Jehovah.
Derrick
i am not by any stretch of the imagination a 'watchtower apologist.
' your recent assessment of me in this regard not only missed the bullseye but strayed so far off course it almost hit innocent onlookers.
then why am i giving the watchtower society unbiased treatment by (gulp) pointing out their positive aspects not just accentuating the negative?.
I am not by any stretch of the imagination a 'Watchtower apologist.' Your recent assessment of me in this regard not only missed the bullseye but strayed so far off course it almost hit innocent onlookers. ;-)
Then why am I giving the Watchtower Society unbiased treatment by (gulp) pointing out their positive aspects not just accentuating the negative?
Easy. In fact the answer is a no brainer that you of all people should easily grasp.
I simply believe in and thus feel compelled to advocate a balanced viewpoint. You know, the type of viewpoint we as once obedient-to-the-WTS JWs were taught that all sincere seekers of the truth should have?
Well guess what Farkel.
I decided to unpackage the deal and take the balanced viewpoint and ditch the blind obedience. This came with a price because true balance means the divestiture of egotistical bias.
Derrick
many on this site focus on the society's negative aspects.
it's as if many of you are afraid to mention anything positive just in case it might reveal that jehovah's witnesses are humans who keep trying, even after various human failings, to make a positive impact on this world.. don't you agree that it's fair to give them credit when due?
then read on.
The blood doctrine is alive and well - you'll see that in the KM for December, the scans of which I received from Dmouse today and will be putting on my webpage soon.
Really? I was under the impression they were making progress in this area, that The Liberal Elder's AJWRB web site was bearing good fruit in their awareness of past Biblical interpretative errors in this blood drenched Watchtower Society teaching. How can this doctrine be "alive and well" when they are allowing more and more leeway in use of blood components in medical treatment?
Derrick
many on this site focus on the society's negative aspects.
it's as if many of you are afraid to mention anything positive just in case it might reveal that jehovah's witnesses are humans who keep trying, even after various human failings, to make a positive impact on this world.. don't you agree that it's fair to give them credit when due?
then read on.
Many on this site focus on the Society's negative aspects. It's as if many of you are afraid to mention anything positive just in case it might reveal that Jehovah's Witnesses are humans who keep trying, even after various human failings, to make a positive impact on this world.
Don't you agree that it's fair to give them credit when due? Then read on. Otherwise, grab your blinders and close this window on your screen immediately to keep your conscience from coming in contact with reality.
| Health and Medicine |
Society for the Advancement of Blood Management recognizes a primary source of information regarding transfusion alternatives |
Very impressive! Although many of you are angry at the human mistakes of those leading JWs, anyone who is unbiased cannot deny the impact Jehovah's Witnesses have made.
The good and bad, each deserves mention in a free democratic society. Congratulations to the worldwide association of Jehovah's Witnesses for effecting the changes in medical technologies that this pretigious award represents.
Derrick
those in southern california whose territory she is in, as well as those who can relate to the struggles she has faced throughout her long but difficult life, might want to say a prayer for her today.. top stories - apzsa zsa gabor said to be in coma thu nov 28, 3:46 pm etadd top stories - ap to my yahoo!.
by andrew bridges, associated press writer.
los angeles (ap) - actress zsa zsa gabor (news) was hospitalized and in a coma thursday after a car she was riding in struck a light pole on sunset boulevard, a family spokesman said.
Those in southern California whose territory she is in, as well as those who can relate to the struggles she has faced throughout her long but difficult life, might want to say a prayer for her today.
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Very sad.
Derrick
