It is interesting that Mary is also a caucasion from Australia, as are so many that were "there with him" when he was put to death.
Quandry
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Inside Australia's chilling new cult, an xJW is the leader
by finallysomepride inin a 10 month investigation, sunday night infiltrates one of the worlds most worrying new cults.
but most chilling, this cult is australian, spreading and described as worse than waco.
we go inside the cults headquarters to meet the leaders and their followers who claim their lives have been changed forever.. http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/10276027/inside-australias-chilling-new-cult/.
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My trouble
by bushido8000 ini have been facing a small dilemma for some years now.
i have been in the truth since i was 5 years old.
after experiencing some troubles with man-made rules (non-scriptural, told me that i absolutely could not join my small school's football team) in the kingdom hall when i was about 16, i stopped going to take a step back and look at what was going on.
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Quandry
Welcome.
You can see by my name that at one time I felt the same way as you do now.
My family left because of the horrible way my-at the time-sixteen year old daughter was treated by a Judicial Committee that sought to berate and humiliate her, accused her of things she did not do, and disfellowshipped her. I found this forum, and began reading. Soon, I found out more about things that had bothered me but that I had sought to push to the back of my mind-the generation teaching was the biggest one. First, they were the ones that were at an age of understanding in 1914, then, those that were born before 1914. Next, the generation was the contemporaries that did not accept Jesus' return. Now, they are an "overlapping generation" that again began in 1914.
Finally, it hit me. I had spent over thirty years trying to force my mind to accept some pretting implausable things just because the WTS pronounced it so. I had forgone an education so that I could financially struggle to get by doing cleaning jobs, and others that paid little and were exhausting.
My daughter, my husband, and I went through a major depression when we left. Thankfully, my daughter never gave up on her education, and will graduate from college with a degree in Biology in December. At 59 years old, I am in college, and loving every minute of it. I still must work full-time at a low-paying job, so won't graduate until year after next if my brain holds together.
You may not be able to go back and get on the football team, but you are young enough to pursue other things that are worthwhile. Please develop some goals...especially as regards education. You will never regret learning..it will open up many opportunities, and is just freeing to the mind!
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My father's funeral
by jwfacts inlast week i attended my father's funeral in hobart.
i was the first time i have been in a kingdom hall in several years, and many years since i had attended the hall of my childhood, but felt like it was just yesterday.
the funeral talk was quite a departure from normal, so worth writing about.
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Quandry
So glad you were able to get through all with dignity, even though some had idiotic comments meant to dig at you.
I wonder what will happen to mum.
Oh, I'm sure you'll find out. In the years to come, if mum needs care, they'll be looking for you to do your "duty."
I remember reading one women's story when I first became a member here. She'd been shunned by her mother for years, but when her mother got old and was diagnosed with demensia, the "loving brothers" informed her that it was her responsibility to care for her. There she sat, caring for a woman that she no longer knew and that no longer knew her!
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Not Raising My Hand at Tomorrow's WT Study.
by compound complex ingreetings, friends:.
wishing you all a pleasant weekend.
committed to attend tomorrow's meeting at the kingdom hall, i've decided that i am going because i love my friends and family.
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Quandry
We are a proud and deceptive lot, our aim being to overturn the apparently tenuous faith of people we've known and loved for years. Once we entice and draw them out with our cunning words, we give them nothing in return. We apostates are in a spiritual wasteland and face imminent destruction at Jehovah's hand. Truly, we are mentally diseased. The pure, spiritual waters God's people imbibe give them a keenness of mind that elevates them to a level of superiority and spiritual awareness that shows you and me up for who we really are.
Aren't we, though....there to take everything away but offer nothing in its place....we are....."dangerous." Gives me a kick to think that as a woman going on 60, getting a slight bit forgetful and definetely not as limber, that I can have such effect...wow.
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Cliff Robertson, Wonderful Actor, Dead at 88
by BizzyBee injust damn.
one of my all-time favorite actors.
i was surprised that he was 88 - he's always seemed to exude such youthfulness, that i would have guessed him younger.
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Quandry
I hate to hear it. I hope he enjoyed his career and success.
You are so right, Blondie. At least he pursued his chosen profession, instead of pioneering and "waiting for Armageddon to come soon" like JWs.
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A chance encounter that proved how much I've grown.
by purpleplus inwhile at a gas station, i saw an acquaintance from my jw days.
i spoke to him first and he responded.
we had a little small talk.
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Quandry
Ha! Wonder what he told everyone after he saw you!
Last year, I was in a store and saw a JW from a previous KHall I went to. We said hello to each other,etc. and then she asked what hall I went to now. I stated that I don't go to the KHall anymore. She looked incredulous and said, "None?" I said, "No, I don't go to any KHall anymore." I said a pleasant good-bye to her and left the store-oh, to be a fly on the wall when she went to the next meeting!
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IT BOILS ME!! (Venting)
by pubtruth inwell my uncle just called me and told me he was visiting tomorrow, asking about family and such.
good, no objection to that.
he asked to put mom on the phone, so i did.
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Quandry
Calm down. Take a breath. There, now.
Please check into a technical course that would equip you for a job. Believe me, they will help you with funding. You will get away from the house for awhile, and start creating some goals.
As to a job...well, burger slinging is not glamorous, but you need to start somewhere. A part time job and tech school will do wonders for your self-esteem, and if you are a reliable employee, give you a reference for the future.
Oh, and as to the smoking and lying for mom-why should you be expected to do that? She is an adult and as such should answer for herself.
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1-year anniversary on this forum
by Alfred inwow!!!
i've just noticed that i've been on this forum for a whole year... it's incredible how time flys after escaping the wt's control.... i don't really know what to say at a time like this... except that i have grown to appreciate all kinds of people and i have healed completely thanks to many of you on this forum (like dog patch, barbara, jw facts, terry, marvin shilmer, sizemik, mad sweeney, doug mason and many others that have escaped my memory).... and how can i forget to thank outlaw and punkofnice for adding their humor to it all.... anyway, thanks everyone... i'm a much better person today because of you and i appreciate it very much....
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Quandry
I Hope every day gets brighter and better!
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What's The Worst Thing About Ever Having Been A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus infor me, it's the waste of precious time and being lied to.. stupid time consuming things to do that are utterly worthless!
and on top of that being told that you were going to live forever on paradise if you followed their decrees..
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Quandry
I like the word someone used, profound-yes-the profound waste of thirty years of my life:
Going out in service every weekend.
Not seeing my "worldly" parents very often. (now they're dead and I'd love to tell them I'm no longer in)
Letting elders talk to my teen daughter like she was a waste of skin and then disfellowshipping her-she "refused counsel because it didn't seem like she wanted to answer their questions about doing some paltry teen things." (she is going to graduate with honors from college in December with a degree in Biology)
Not getting a degree because it "might stumble someone" and now going to college at 59 years old.
Having to think about what "could have been" had I not tried to twist my brain to believe all the flip-flops and generation idiocy.
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My Father passed away during the night
by jwfacts indad was a great man, great, despite the religion.
he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.
he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.
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Quandry
The statements about your father were made very eloquently. It seems his love for you surpassed the WT prohibitions on seeing df'd family members. If there is such a thing as heaven, there seems little doubt that you and he will be together again.