Posts by Quandry

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I must say that I am very curious

by Grins in

i am looking for information on the beliefs of jehovah's witness i do not know much and i am afraid that most of what i am finding is biased information one way or the other.

i did find a "fact sheet" and i am wondering if all of it is true or not.

i looked at the watchtower website for answers to a few of these and so far i am finding them to be true.

Quandry

Grins-

Welcome and thank you for your questions. I feel that the others have explained very adequately. This one:

#34 You cannot serve on a jury

I believe a long time ago I was also told that if it was a capitol case and you judged the person wrongly, you could be held as blood guilty.

Please take some time and view some of the personal stories on here. Ostensibly the WT organization looks like it is comprised of clean, wholesome looking Christian people. Many of us know now that it is because the WT Society goes out of its way to protect its image.

You may want to ask current witnesses some of your questions, but I certainly think you will find out some of the "behind the scenes" things that go on within the organization by becoming familiar with some of the sites on the internet such as this one.

I wondered why in the world there would be so many anti Jehovah's Witness sites on the internet when I first looked. By the way, looking at internet sites such as this one would DEFINITELY get a person disfellowshipped and shunned, hence the need to use names other than our own on this forum!!

Please feel free to ask any questions you have. Many of us, like myself, were in the organization for many years (me-over thirty) and some held postitions in the congregations.

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ARE YOU UPSET THAT YOU DIDN"T GO TO COLLEGE?

by minimus in

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friends

i have read of some people's bitterness because they were denied the opportunity to go to college.

during the 60's and 70's the society really discouraged any education other than what was necessary.

since the end was so near, especially around 1975, anybody that decided to go to "higher education" was considered very weak and unbalanced.

Quandry

Even though my parents will never understand or be proud, I'm proud of me. My husband also started college last year.

Oh, yes, just like most on this forum. I actually went to college one year, got married, then studied/bacame a witness along with hubbie when I was twenty.

In the ensuing years I cleaned houses like a good Jdub wife. Never had money. Hubbie became elder and self employed so that he would never miss meetings. We had book studies in our home, always took talks, regular in service.

What we didn't have was vacations, or money. When my dryer went out, I had to hang clothes on the fence until I could come up with money to get mine fixed. Forever didn't have a garbage disposal, when the dishwasher went out, I used it to dry they dishes in.

My daughter always had second hand clothes and toys. I had second hand clothes.

But we always had money to put gas in our car to go to meetings or out in service. We even bought a van once because we had rural territory and wanted to take more people with us.

Finally, I started working at a school as a teacher's aide. There I saw when encouraging the children to get their education, I needed to take my own advice.

Now, with a full time job, and a child in college, I still have no money, and no vacations, due to years of making little and not having any savings. But I am plodding along.

It is misery to go to a class with teens and young adults when you are 55 years old. But I try to look past that and envision the time when I hold a collge diploma in my hand.

Any of you reading this, any of you that want to be proud of yourself, or are still feeling bad about not going to college--DO NOT DELAY! YOU CAN DO IT! DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU YOU CAN'T. IT IS NEVER TOO LATE!

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Would there be a backlash if the Blood Ban was lifted?

by Gill in

would there be a backlash from current jws if the blood transfusion ban was lifted and made completely a conscience matter?.

i suspect, that only those who had lost a close relative would be bothered.

the others would just be relieved that they didn't have to worry about this traumatic issue anymore and they would carry on as ususal.. so, what is it, except for fear of legal action, that is stopping the ban being lifted?

Quandry

I just think it would make a lot of people angry - not relief at "new light" but anger at the years of unnecessary suffering.

I agree. It would have made me angry if I was still "in."

But I remember sitting in the KHall in 1995 at the WT study when the change in generation was made. I remember looking around and seeing nothing at all unusual. No one seemed to think anything of it. Minds were instantaneously changed from believing "The generation that was alive and at an age of understanding in 1914 will by no means pass of the scene until the great tribulation," to some new gobbledy-gook that I could not understand, except that the doctrine was changed, and no one seemed concerned except me, so I was the one needing to change my thinking....

Now, of course, we know that some on this forum were also angry at the change. How many years had some of us seen the words on the inside cover of the Awake magazine and not doubted the WTS? Had told people in service, our families, people at work...they needed to become witness and soon! because of these words. Now....well...did I say that?

Yes, although many would be disturbed, and some leave, the majority would look at it as, "Well, see, aren't we glad we didn't run ahead of the Org.-we knew that it would be clarified in 'due time'." The same glassy look would come over those reading about a change in the blood policy at the WT study and things would go on as before. Those who were "disturbed" and left were "not of our sort" anyway.

I hate that word "clarified" and the expression "in due time."

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THANKS EVERYONE! ITS MY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY!

by restrangled in

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friends

thanks to all for your support, advice, info, etc.

i can't believe how fast this year went by!

i wish i could thank you all personally, but there are too many!

Quandry

Wow, time flies!! Glad you are here with us all!!!

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What is the most "American"

by stillajwexelder in

if somebody anywhere in the world were to ask what was very american -what would you answer?.

apple pie.

hamburgers.

Quandry

Don't forget Chevrolets. "See the USA in a Chrevrolet."

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Really Now - NO Treachery?

by compound complex in

friends,.

was it an article in the 15 july 2006 watchtower wherein it is stated that jehovah, jesus christ, the holy spirit and the loving spiritual shepherds would not permit treachery to occur within the christian congregation?

if so, why have my jws been defrauded and deceived - with wt sanction, some cases being brought to their attention - with regard to large sums of money, not to mention other assorted atrocities?

Quandry

Yes, here is picture of the young man that is happy now that he again believes everything the WTS teaches. Aren't we all happy for him?

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The Watchtower Society's "Spiritual Paradise"

by Honesty in

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there are 729 references to the "spiritual paradise" on the 2006 watchtower library on cd.. .

when you were one of jehovah's witness what was it like to live in this "spiritual paradise"?.

we would enjoy hearing about your daily walk with god the faithful slave (genesis 5:22,24; genesis 6:9) and how refreshed you felt at the end of each glorious day in paradise..

Quandry

It meant that I was in a "place of safety" and did not need to concern myself with actually understanding the change in gererations, the three and one half times, the frequent references to "prefiguring" and other JW speak. I could be confident that the GB had it all figured out, and that I was on the correct train to the real paradise. All I needed to do was my utmost and still feel guilt for not doing more.

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by lola28 in

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friends

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Quandry

My thoughts exactly!!!

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JW Vultures!

by Grammy in

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friends

my 45 year old son committed suicide in may, he was living in texas, i live in mississippi, he was raised here and had many family members and friends here so on june 4, i had his obituary run in our local paper...on june 6, i got a letter in the mail from a town 12 miles away, thinking it was from someone who knew him i opened it to find that it was from a jw who i do not know and it contained a typed note along with that damn when someone you love dies tract in it!

i was furious at the person who sent it until i thought about how brainwashed they are and how important it is for them to get their time in even if it's done in such a disgusting manner as reading the obituaries and imposing their screwed up beliefs on people like myself who are in pain and grieving the loss of their first born son!

i tore it to bits and put it in the trash where it belongs.

Quandry

Grammy

I am heartbroken to hear of your loss. May his memories comfort you. As many doubts as I do have, I still feel deep in my heart that Jesus did have the power to bring dead ones back to life, died for us all and loves everyone of us. He wants us to live in the future and be with each other.

Where that will be I no longer pretend to know, but hope that it will happen.

By the way, although I now live in Texas, I was raised most of my life in Mississippi, also. I was not a witness, then; my husband and I were baptized in 1973, because we did not want to die at Armageddon, which was only a little over a year in the future.

Hugs to you.....

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Awake on Materialism Delivered Anonymously To My Home. What should I do????

by mtsgrad in

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friends

i stopped going to meetings last year.

before then i had started a successful business.

since fading only four witnesses have made contact with me (i know thats better than some!)..

Quandry

It is obvious that you have been judged by some in the Borg. Of course, if you appear successful, you must be materialistic. Why else would you possibly have left?

If you are a fader, this is actually a good sign. You are not viewed as apostate, only "using the world to the full."

What you should do is be glad that you are not still giving money to the WTS, wearing out your car taking people in door to door work, and are saving for retirement.

It's all good!! Buy something new to put out in front of your house or apt. that bespeaks the higher standard of living and your happiness!!