Wow..just wow. Indoctrinating children to give them money instead of buying an ice cream? What the actual F**K!?! Just started watching the What is true love video. Forget your dreams dedicate your life to the borginization. Ugh so disgusting. This cult makes me sick. One of my biggest regrets about my teenage years was not playing sports in school.
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2015 Convention Releases
by wifibandit inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases-2015/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7cyswlvwg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmuamqiv4k.
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What triggered your doubts / awakening?
by Tornintwo ini am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
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For me it was the overlapping generation watchtower study after the RNWT came out. I remember reading the paragraph and not seeing a single scripture quoted as to why the generation was overlapping "generations". I started googling, came across crisis of conscience etc. I was out mentally half way into it. Haven't been to a meeting in a year and a half though I did attend the memorial. My family and wife know I don't believe any of the BS anymore but my wife is inactive too and no one has reported me to elders for my filthy apostasy yet haha which is surprising given how much I try to share TTATT with them. -
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Are the writers in the writing department purposely misquoting people?
by paulmolark inafter reading that great post about the june 1 article on science i got to thinking.
although it is great to believe there is this huge group of guys in the jw writing department that are constantly looking to mislead us by twisting the words of scientist etc... i really think it is more likely they are google researchers that do not have the ability to grasp the thoughts that are being expressed in the scientific article they quote mine from.. i honestly believe the reason that this happens is because of the individuals they use to write these magazines.
these are not college educated men.
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It may be a mixture of the two. I think in an effort to find any little shred of evidence to support their wack job theories they resort to misquoting perhaps believing their own delusion so much they don't even realize how intellectually dishonest they are... but I lean more to the idea they know what they are doing and they don't give a damn because the rank and file eat that shiz up. -
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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Can anyone provide a link to the elders letter regarding the kingdumb hall debt forgiveness? Would love to show this to my family.
I can't believe this broadcast won't wake people up with nagging doubts. I never thought I would see such a blatant request for MORE MONEY!
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The elders came to talk about my facebook comment
by cookiemaster inso, not long ago i've told you guys how one of my only two jw friends saw my comment against the borg and called me about it.
well, the little fraker also called the elders to tell on me.
i know i've been a huge idiot for posting a comment about jw's on facebook, but nonetheless i did it and what's happened, happened.. two idiot elders came all the way from the nearest congo, 30 miles away to talk to me about it.
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30 miles? Haha that's nothing. My friends mom moved from Southern Oregon to San Francisco and had the elders drive 380 miles after 4 years of having nothing to do with the borg, to tell her they were DFing her because they had somehow heard she had been with a worldly man with no evidence. She kicked one of the brothers in the shin lol. The two elders who drove down there were eventually removed over the matter once it got back to the CO. I guess even they could see that was crazy to harass someone like that. -
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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Edit: I have tried to post my experience twice but it keeps getting cut off and not saving.
I pointed out the scripture in 1 cor that says to keep observing until the lord comes or words to that affect. After the program my wife says why are we still observing if christ came in 1919. How many times is jesus coming? She said that teaching doesn't really make sense. The wheels are turning. I also asked he if she thought it was odd the speaker didn't read or cite a scripture when stating the bible teaches 2 classes of christians. She agreed it was. I believe there was only 3 maybe 4 scriptures in the whole talk. In general the JWs don't really use their bible unless it's to selectively support doctrine.
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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Thanks you all for the words of encouragement and suggestions.
So I decided to go to the memorial and I'm glad I did as I was able to pick up on some point that I brought to the attention of my wife and they seemed to have some effect.
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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Giodoano, Yes my father was an elder for almost a decade. He stepped down a few years back because he didn't feel he was out in service enough and he did not like being on judicial committees. I've shown my parent a lot of the pedophile cases, the UN debacle you name it. Their response to the congregations not being warned about pedophiles is that they don't think any other religion warns their members either and the society would probably open themselves up to litigation for slandering someone in the hall similar to how they don't announce reasons for DFing. They think it is sufficient if the elders play policeman and make sure the abuser isn't around children. Yeah because that really works out well
Billy great illustration I got a laugh out of that one though it really isn't that funny its sad. -
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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Vanderhoven7 great video! You brought out some great points I had never put it together that the 144000 was pre-tribulation. Thanks! I plan on watching your other videos. -
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First Post and Using the memorial to wake up family members
by dgeero inthis is my first post here though i've been a long time lurker.
my story in a nutshell:.
started having doubts after the new silver sword and watchtower study regarding overlapping generations.
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Xanthippe, yes my family has been pretty open minded. My wife and I still do a lot of things with my parents even though they know my objections. I'm really surprised the things I've gotten away with telling them without having the big bad elders serve me a letter to meet with them. I do feel their is hope for them.
Thanks crazy guy for the suggestions that was a similar line of reasoning I had used.