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  The massive gaping hole in Watchtower's understanding of Matthew 25:31-40

  by Island Man in

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  (matthew 25:31-40) .

  .when the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.

  32 all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

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  Or you know just stop trying to make sense out of nonsense from a book written 2000 years ago?
  
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  Going Nuclear - Marriage

  by Sofia Lose in

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  2. experiences

  has anyone here gone nuclear on their spouse and, all of a sudden, came out in the open as a jw opposer?.

  by this i mean, sitting them down and saying: i no longer want to be a jw anymore, do not want to go to meetings or preaching anymore!

  and, what has happened in the relationship after that?.

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  Yup last year my wife was asking me what our plans were for convention. I said "Yeah i was thinking about not going.. chuckle chuckle". This caught her off guard and I couldn't hold it in any longer. I told her the witnesses were a cult and I wanted nothing to do with them. Fast forward to now my wife hasn't been to a meeting in over a year other than memorial and just lately she has told me she has been reading up on the Australian royal commission and about how BS some of the witness dogma is like the cross etc. I think she is finally waking up. After the initial blow up I took a step back and only shared things with her periodically. We had quite a rough patch for awhile but things have been much better since the beginning of the year or so.
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  Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?

  by anewme in

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  2. friends

  years ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.

  disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!

  at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .

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  About DF, it has softened. It used to be the disgracing publicly of an individual with a talk following the DF rebuking the related person about his sins. Public reproof was also hard. And then, the stern look from the elders and the looks of contempt from the others. Now, a person is DF privately although the cong is informed later that the person is no longer JW. Relatives still deals with him, although some people are fanatical and completely shun a family member not having anything to do with him, but that is something that they do on their own. The cong also deals with the DF JW with kindness and encourages that one from time to time to come to the meetings. The DF person is greeted at the meetings by some and also when seen on the street. Everything considered though, if the person makes no effort at all, or is advocating breaking the rules or brazenly breaking the rules, then it depends. But if the DF person is making some effort, then he is treated with kindness and reminded that he is a brother. Multi DF has been discussed at assemblies encouraging such to get up from their many falls. Anyway you cut it though, getting DF or reproved is a disgraceful thing, it is hard. The elders will never let you forget it and even if the person is ever used again in office, it is not the same as with someone that was never was dishonored. How do you live down something like that? You can't. You know it and so does everybody else.

  Fishermen you are so full of shit. Nothing about treatment of DF'd people is kind they haven't softened if anything they are worse than they used to be. And by only fanatical Jdubs shunning their family I assume you mean 99.9%? I'm not df and I'm shunned by everyone except my parents even though people only know I'm inactive nothing else. When you have watchtowers telling the rank and file to not even send an email to a Df'd family member how can you dare say dfing is something they do on their own? It's drilled into their heads by this cult.
  
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  Kairos I understand you not wanting to attend your JC....BUT... this is a perfect opportunity to get another secret recording exposing their hypocrisy and just how horrible this cult is! And its damn entertaining I have started researching secret cameras in the event I get an official summons. So far haven't needed it. But if I do I will be sending links to the video to everyone I want to know before any announcements are made.
  
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  Petition for U.S. AG investigation.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  not sure if anything will come of this.

  but i signed it.. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-attorney-general-investigate-the-watchtower-society-of-jehovah-s-witnesses-re-child-sexual-abuse?recruiter=363165656&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink.

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  Signed!
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  This absolutely shock me though at this point it shouldn't. At the very least you think they would have the self awareness to know how this would look if it ever got out and not print this. Unbelievable the RC was able to get this! Blows the whole "We aren't like the Catholics we would never allow or appoint a child molester in a position of trust" out of the water. I am no longer a believer but I find this scripture apropriate when speaking of the borg:

  Matt 23:27 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

  That "clean" exterior is falling away and the world is finally seeing this cult for what they are.
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  Hundreds of JW Child Molesters in Australia not Reported to Police- CNN News you tube

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i felt it might be a good idea to post this so that sitting on the fence jw's or jw lurkers can see that this australia jw child abuse news of 1,006 jw child molesters not being reported to police by elders is a reality that has hit mainstream news media.

  i thought this report was very well done.

  here's the link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

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  If any witness can listen to these hearings and not see the complete mismanagement, lack of protection for children/victims, incompetence and out right evil in this organization I'm not sure anything will. This cult will do anything it can to not take accountability for their harmful actions. Sick to my stomach I spent as much of my life working for the borg as I did.
  

  The two witness rule is utterly unjustifiable yet they keep trying.
  
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  Bible Students Convention ......New Understanding of 607!!

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  july 23, 2015 at 3:35 pm.

  i have just read this from berean pickets in the comment section.

  it's quite a leap.

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  Vidqun- If you do a search you can find a free pdf of the book rather easily.
  
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  One year of being free

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  one year ago, this thursday, i went to work as usual.

  i got home, ate dinner, got myself dressed for the meeting, and helped my kids get ready like i usually did.. my son had a talk that evening, his second one.

  many of my family went to support him.

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  Congrats Ricky on 1 year of freedom! I enjoyed listening to your story on JWStruggle. It takes real courage to do what you did. Thanks for sharing.
  
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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  dgeero

  I was in 1 congregation (southern Oregon) that got so large they had to split back in the 90's when I was only 7 or 8. Since then there have been 2 new KH's built in the area one being a double hall. The trend I notice was massive amounts of people attending for a bit followed by dwindling attendance. The congregation I was in before learning TTATT a year and a half ago was meeting at one of the double halls built not that long ago. I believe we had around 130 publishers but Thursday was always around 60 to 70 attending if that and it was quite an accomplishment if it hit 100 on Sundays even during CO week.
  

  I think there have been a lot of KH's built that probably weren't needed but it gave an impression of growth that was largely artificial or growth due to children being born. Now the org needs money what better way to get it then pool smaller halls and sell the buildings all while saying how expansive the growth is. Common sense should tell anyone that if they are combining halls growth isn't happening. I know in my lifetime I can only think of less than 10 people that came into the cult through the door to door or any witnessing. And lets just say the majority of them weren't all there mentally, emotionally or other. But I know plenty born ins (including me) that learned TTATT, were df'd and never came back or faded away.

  After running the numbers I found out there are more going out than coming in