Posts by dgeero

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These are Bernie supporters waiting for their free stuff

by Morning Warship in

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garbage removed.

dgeero

Nope. Actually Bernie supporters (myself included), understand our tax dollars should be appropriated to programs that actually benefit us. Medicare for all would save us around 9 trillions dollars. We spend 30 billion a year on bombs for the military, spending 60 billion to send every American to college tuition free in a no brainer investment to make.

And unless you make over 250,000 your taxes won't increase. Bernie is an FDR democrat and considered a center/moderate by pretty much every other countries standards. The US has swung so far right many are misinformed and don't understand this.

If you don't vote Bernie you are voting against your best economic interests pure and simple. Asher Edelmen, the real life person behind the Gordon Gekko character from "Wall Street" agrees his policies would be best for the US: http://usuncut.com/politics/gordon-gekko-sanders/ Over 170 of the nations top economists have come out in support of his proposals. Supply side economics > trickle down every day of the week.

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Reply to Bugbear: Why I believe in the Bible

by Saved_JW in

[some words i corrected for spelling & grammer] .

"i have been studying the bible for almost 20 years....after graduating in history and science comparing to the the bible, i have have come to to the conclusion that the bible cannot give you any reason to believe in it at all.

so i wonder, why do you use the bible as facit to your believes?

dgeero

You said the bible cannot give you ANY REASON to believe it, well the bible says that the Earth is a circle, do you not believe that?

That's exactly more reason NOT to believe the Bible. The Earth isn't a circle it's a sphere. There is a word for sphere and whoever wrote the verse said circle. The Bible also refers to the Earth as having 4 corners. So the Bible describes the Earth as a round square. Yeah great book to base your life on

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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment

by cofty in

evolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.

natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.

most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.

dgeero

Clambake why don't you try to bring something to the discussion rather than attacking cofty in every single one of his threads. Cofty shares very interesting facts in his own words and all you can come up with is calling him names. Funny cofty shows so much more grace in deflecting your harassment than you someone who is arguing for a creator. Actually I don't know what you believe because all you do is attack rather without offering an alternative.

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Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!

by DATA-DOG in

i propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .

seriously.... any suggestions?

this crap cannot be left unchallenged.

dgeero

wow that is nuts and quite unnerving. Lol and what's funny is I know the family shown in the picture from the OP haha.

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Fishing and JW's???

by lurkernomore in

so i was just reading a thread and came across a completely new jw 'rule', that of not being allowed to go fishing!..

at least it's new to me as i always enjoyed fishing as did others in my old congregation.

anyone else heard of this or had this imposed on them in they're jw lives?.

dgeero

Is there a link to where you read this? Living in the Pacific Northwest pretty much everyone fishes and hunts. It's more rare if they don't.

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When does it end? My marriage is 90% great for the most part, except when it come to this cult

by goingthruthemotions in

i know marriage is tough and it takes work on both parts.

we have been together for 27 years.

the last eight have been involved with this cult.

dgeero

Don't give up on her. My wife was very upset and threatened divorce when I came clean about not wanting to be a witness. Fast forward roughly 2 years later and my wife is now awake. This doesn't always happen but there are success stories.

I found when I stopped trying to deconvert her and I just let the cults tactics work for themselves she started noticing things on her own. I had planted those seeds and her natural reason ability did the rest.

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"High" education

by Esmeralda001 in

did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

are you happy with the end result?

dgeero

I got my associates and it was the best decision I ever made. I was sick of the typical janitorial witness work and I was in my early 20's so I went for it and graduated last year. It opened my eyes to a whole other world and helped me wake up because it made you realize your little JW world view is not all there is. I got a little resistance from my wife at the time and some raised brows from one in the hall but nothing to bad. And it didn't hurt that my degree helped me get into a new field and am now making better money than I ever would have otherwise.

I'm now awake and haven't attended a meeting in 2 years and in the last 6 months my wife has gone from Watchtower defender, though she wasn't attending meeting either, to waking up herself. She sees the hypocrisy and much of the org makes her sick though I think she still believes some of the core teaching and is a believer of sorts. But she constantly is making remarks about things wrong with the Org and even the Bible. Oh and she is now attending college :)

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The massive gaping hole in Watchtower's understanding of Matthew 25:31-40

by Island Man in

(matthew 25:31-40) .

.when the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.

32 all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

dgeero

Or you know just stop trying to make sense out of nonsense from a book written 2000 years ago?

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Going Nuclear - Marriage

by Sofia Lose in

has anyone here gone nuclear on their spouse and, all of a sudden, came out in the open as a jw opposer?.

by this i mean, sitting them down and saying: i no longer want to be a jw anymore, do not want to go to meetings or preaching anymore!

and, what has happened in the relationship after that?.

dgeero

Yup last year my wife was asking me what our plans were for convention. I said "Yeah i was thinking about not going.. chuckle chuckle". This caught her off guard and I couldn't hold it in any longer. I told her the witnesses were a cult and I wanted nothing to do with them. Fast forward to now my wife hasn't been to a meeting in over a year other than memorial and just lately she has told me she has been reading up on the Australian royal commission and about how BS some of the witness dogma is like the cross etc. I think she is finally waking up. After the initial blow up I took a step back and only shared things with her periodically. We had quite a rough patch for awhile but things have been much better since the beginning of the year or so.

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Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?

by anewme in

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years ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.

disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!

at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .

dgeero

About DF, it has softened. It used to be the disgracing publicly of an individual with a talk following the DF rebuking the related person about his sins. Public reproof was also hard. And then, the stern look from the elders and the looks of contempt from the others. Now, a person is DF privately although the cong is informed later that the person is no longer JW. Relatives still deals with him, although some people are fanatical and completely shun a family member not having anything to do with him, but that is something that they do on their own. The cong also deals with the DF JW with kindness and encourages that one from time to time to come to the meetings. The DF person is greeted at the meetings by some and also when seen on the street. Everything considered though, if the person makes no effort at all, or is advocating breaking the rules or brazenly breaking the rules, then it depends. But if the DF person is making some effort, then he is treated with kindness and reminded that he is a brother. Multi DF has been discussed at assemblies encouraging such to get up from their many falls. Anyway you cut it though, getting DF or reproved is a disgraceful thing, it is hard. The elders will never let you forget it and even if the person is ever used again in office, it is not the same as with someone that was never was dishonored. How do you live down something like that? You can't. You know it and so does everybody else.

Fishermen you are so full of shit. Nothing about treatment of DF'd people is kind they haven't softened if anything they are worse than they used to be. And by only fanatical Jdubs shunning their family I assume you mean 99.9%? I'm not df and I'm shunned by everyone except my parents even though people only know I'm inactive nothing else. When you have watchtowers telling the rank and file to not even send an email to a Df'd family member how can you dare say dfing is something they do on their own? It's drilled into their heads by this cult.