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  What media outlets have you contacted?

  by detective in

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  i would like to get a sense of what media outlets have been contacted so far.

  who has contacted the media?

  what media have you contacted?

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  detective

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  What media outlets have you contacted?

  by detective in

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  2. friends

  i would like to get a sense of what media outlets have been contacted so far.

  who has contacted the media?

  what media have you contacted?

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  I am planning on contacting some press hopefully later in the week. It's likely that I will only contact a few papers so as not to bombard my contact person. In the meantime, I've been collecting media resources so that I can proceed. Rather than inundate my contact person, it might be good if others noted who they were going to contact in the media and initiated some movement in that area on their own. If we get just one bite, it'd be wonderful. However, it will require people to be somewhat motivated. The pay off would definitely be worth it if we reached the public.
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  What media outlets have you contacted?

  by detective in

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  2. friends

  i would like to get a sense of what media outlets have been contacted so far.

  who has contacted the media?

  what media have you contacted?

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  detective

  Hi,
  I would like to get a sense of what media outlets have been contacted so far. Who has contacted the media? What media have you contacted? Any media interest besides the Guardian?
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  Post about the UN at the New York Times Forum

  by hsmew in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  people are getting interested!

  let's spread the word...... go here: http://forums.nytimes.com/.

  and scroll down to religion in america.

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  detective

  In case you wanted to post on the Christian Science Monitor board. You have to register for this one too. I haven't sent them a press release yet. I haven't been able to get them on the phone for a fax number or email tip line.

  Here is their posting board address:

  http://www.csmonitor.com/monitortalk/index.html
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  MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

  and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

  after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

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  detective

  Hi Hawk,
  Is there anything else up your sleeve or can people who are considering contacting the press move ahead? Below is another sample of the pseudo-press release. And don't hammer me folks, I'm not a professional so have mercy. Anybody can use any part of it they like. I'm thinking it's getting on time to circulate the word to the outside world?
  Ready to go, Hawk?

  For immediate release:
  Contact:
  
  Controversial Religious Sect's association with United Nations
  withdrawn after former sect members blow the whistle.
  
  Former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recently made a
  scandalous discovery when they learned the Watchtower Bible
  and Tract Society, also known as Jehovah's Witnesses, had
  affiliated itself with the United Nations by soliciting to
  become an associated Non-Governmental Organization (NGO).
  Former members flooded the United Nations and The Watchtower's headquarters in Brooklyn with phone calls, protesting that for years the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has issued scathing statements in it's magazines and from the pulpit that malign the United Nations, dubbing it the "disgusting thing" and likening it to the "scarlet colored wild beast" of the bible. The Watchtower Organization seemingly bowed to pressure from former and current members alike by withdrawing it's status earlier this week.

  While a seemingly harmless affiliation to most of us, the
  reckoning of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's quietly
  associating itself with the U.N. is the making of a substantial scandal for the controversial religious organization. Former members of Jehovah's Witnesses argued that the Watchtower Society has repeatedly painted a vile description of the United Nations and it's goals before an audience of about six million adherents. Recently, however, the United Nations received an unprecedented number of phone calls from outraged former members who stumbled upon the news that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, who made an art out of skewering the United Nations in it's publications, has been an affiliated NGO since 1991, a far cry from standing apart from the "disgusting thing" they have often described it as.
  
  Why is is this newsworthy?

  Stunned former members of Jehovah's Witnesses who learned of
  the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's association with the
  United Nations and intitated a grass roots effort to draw
  attention to the situation that could prove enormously
  embarassing to the United Nations and spark revolt among the
  rank and file members of the sect. This revelation could be
  highly detrimental to the credibility of Watchtower Bible and
  Tract Society in the eyes of both the United Nations and of
  the religious organization's millions of adherents. Former members allege that the sect misled the United Nations by petitioning to
  support and promote it's purposes while simultaneously
  maligning it before the Watchtower Society's millions of
  faithful believers.
  
  Most rank and file members had no knowledge of the Watchtower
  Society's affiliation with the United Nations, and, as they
  have been led to believe the United Nations represents the
  "Scarlet-colored wild beast" of the bible, they would be
  shocked to learn of this affiliation.
  
  To further investigate this unfolding controversy, you may contact me at...

  Additionally, you will find further information below to assist you in your research.

  For the United Nations:
  An address to send correspondance regarding an NGO
  NGO Section
  Department of Public Information
  Room S-1070 L
  New York, NY 10017, USA
  Tel: (212) 963-6842
  Fax: (212) 963-6914
  < "
  target=_newhttp://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm>
  < http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm>;;
  < "
  target=_newhttp://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/ngodir/NGODirAlph
  /alphabet.htm>
  < http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/ngodir/NGODirAlph/alphabet.htm>;;
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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  detective

  Mommy, I got your email and replied. let me know if you don't get this one either! Thank you so much!!!
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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  detective

  Hi Hawk,
  I'm fine with waiting. I'm eager to see what other jewel will be uncovered. I just want people to know that I won't be able to do anything anyway despite feeling motivated because I don't have a contact person. So, if they are hoping that I can do anything at all about contacing the media, they would be mistaken.

  Thanks for everything Hawk. And no, my friend isn't speaking to me anymore.
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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  detective

  Hi, thanks to whoever sent me the email about the pseudo-press release. Your advice was helpful. However, I am in an awkward postion as I cannot send out a press release to anyone anywhere without a viable contact name and phone number to attach to it. I would not be considered a viable contact so I cannot do it myself.
  Thanks to Machislopp and Mommy who have possibly volunteered. I have sent you emails. If you don't get them, please email me.

  This won't get to the press without someone who would be willing to field calls by the press on the matter. Please consider making yourself available to do this. If everyone sits back and lets someone else do it, it will never get done. If you are in a position to field phone calls from the press on this matter PLEASE EMAIL me. You do not have to be a professional spokesperson but simply someone who can explain the significance of the situation to a layperson. More often than not, you can still be an unidentified source if you request it but you need to let someone actually speak to first! I can't say this enough, it won't magically appear in the newspaper. Somebody sought out the Guardian reporter. Are you willing to talk to a reporter yourself?
  I would also be willing to explore media outlets where you can drop a dime and post them here if that would help. However, I am not a viable contact and acting as such would simply lessen the effectiveness of the message we are trying to spread. Maybe nobody thinks it's important enough to try and get this info to the media? I don't know how people feel about it. But seeing as how I am powerless to bring this matter to the media without a viable contact, I can do nothing to further spread the word without help. Everybody has done such good work. The rest of the world won't know about it and I think that's a shame. But it is what it is.

  So, if you're willing to step up, then email me. Otherwise, I'm done trying to motivate people in this particular manner. I still think everyone is great, but if my idea about hitting the media isn't of interest, I can deal with it.
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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  detective

  I need advice. Should I try to get the UN website to my friend ASAP? I already told my friend about it (he rationalized it) but now I'm worried I'll lose my unmitigated proof. Should I push the issue with my friend or do you think I'm over-reacting and still have a little time before I do that?

  Mommy, i sent you an email.
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  MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

  the dpi is now taking them off the list.

  the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.

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  detective

  Helps if I would post it!

  For immediate release:
  Contact:

  Controversial Religious Sect's association with United Nations withdrawn after former sect members blow the whistle

  Former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recently made a scandalous discovery when they learned the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, also known as Jehovah's Witnesses, had affiliated itself with the United Nations by soliciting to become an associated Non-Governmental Organization (NGO). While a seemingly harmless affiliation to most of us, the reckoning of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's quietly associating itself with the U.N. is the making of a substantial scandal for the controversial religious organization. For years the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has issued scathing statements in it's magazines and from the pulpit that slander the United Nations. Before an audience of about six million adherents, the Watchtower has repeatedly painted a vile description of the United Nations and it's goals. Recently, however, former members stumbled upon the shocking news that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, who made an art out of skewering the United Nations in it's publications, has been an affiliated NGO since 1991, a far cry from standing apart from the "disgusting thing" they have often described it as.

  Why is is this newsworthy?

  Stunned former members of Jehovah's Witnesses who learned of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's association with the United Nations and intitated a grass roots effort to draw attention to the situation that could prove enormously embarassing to the United Nations and spark revolt among the rank and file members of the sect. This revelation could be highly detrimental to the credibility of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in the eyes of both the United Nations and of the religious organization's millions of adherents. In addition to misleading the United Nations by petitioning to support and promote it's purposes while simultaneously slandering it before the Watchtower Society's millions of faithful believers, the Watchtower Society has a history riddled with infringement upon basic human rights for it's "flock" by use of fear, manipulation and outright deception. Most rank and file members had no knowledge of the Watchtower Society's affiliation with the United Nations, and, as they have been led to believe the United Nations represents the "Scarlet-colored wild beast" of the bible, they would be shocked to learn of this affiliation.

  Why is this timely information?

  In short, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society only recently got caught. The whistle-blowing ex-members have clearly brought unexpected attention to the controversy. Just today it was learned that the Watchtower bible and Tract Society has withdrawn it's status as an non-governmental organization with the United Nations. At present, it is unclear if the society voluntarily withdrew it's status or was asked to do so by the United Nations. Below you will find the following additional information in assisting you in researching this controversial finding.

  For the United Nations:
  An address to send correspondance regarding an NGO
  NGO Section
  Department of Public Information
  Room S-1070 L
  New York, NY 10017, USA
  Tel: (212) 963-6842
  Fax: (212) 963-6914
  < http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm>;
  < http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/ngodir/NGODirAlph/alphabet.htm>;