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  The Shower Test

  by closer2fine in

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  the shower test .

  your best partner in life will be those who chose a) chest and e) privates.

  your best partner in life will be those who chose b) face and d) hair.

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  detective

  Straightforward and do not beat around the bush.

  Shouldn't this description fall under the "privates" category?

  Okay, fine. I rarely have an off-color moment so this is mine. Damn my bawdy ways.

  My order of washing: horns, tail, hair... the usual.
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  A sickening example of religious vampirism

  by expatbrit in

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  the link below leads to a webpage for a play entitled it's not too late: a christian drama/musical inspired by the columbine tragedy.. here is the synopsis of the play:.

  the story takes place during one day at a high school.. .

  mr. brooks is the custodian of the high school.

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  detective

  I'm definitely not in the "it's a great story" camp. In my opinion it's a disturbing emotional manipulation of a horrible tragedy.

  Believing in jesus was not a prerequisite to being shot at Columbine. The killers did not pose that question to each and every victim prior to opening fire. Cassie was not killed because she took a stand for Jesus- at least, it's highly unlikely that that was the cause because it's not consistent with the other thirteen(?) killings that took place that day. Sadly, Cassie may have drawn attention to herself due to her proclamation that resulted in her death- maybe, maybe she would have been killed either way. We don't really know.

  I love how people justify exploiting a tragedy to further their own cause. Very nice.
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  Spoke with a dub on ever changing doctrine...

  by stocwach in

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  {to anyone that has seen this topic under "beliefs, doctrine, and practices", i apologize for the duplication, but i wanted to make sure it got the most exposure under the "main" thread here}:.

  needed to be circumcised like the jewish christians already were.

  only about the circumcision issue but also on whether the gentiles were.

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  detective

  Another thing mentioned was the apostles (Known as the governing body)...

  
  I still can't get past this statement. Where in the bible are the apostles known as the governing body?

  I'm guessing he means that the Watchtower's governing body was created as a modern day emodiment inspired by the apostles well, ummmmmm, sure. Whatever.

  Of course, I'm trying to imagine the apostles taking a hand-count to determine if they've got the majority so they can get rid of circumcision.
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  What is REALLY a Cult? -- Part #1

  by ros in

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  we know the unification church (moonies) are a real cult.

  but how can we say jehovahs witnesses are a cult?

  consider some of the traits of a real cult revealed by a former moonie about the unification church.. =====================================================.

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  detective

  I've read both of Hassan's books ("Combatting Mind Control" and his second book "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering people to think for themselves").

  "Releasing the Bonds..." is his most recent book. It touches specifically on Jehovah's Witnesses whereas his earlier book does not. I believe he credits Randy Watters with drawing witness issues to his attention, if I recall correctly.

  Very interesting insights. I recommend both but if you have to choose between the two pick "Releasing the Bonds..."
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  priests in the news why not JWs?

  by target in

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  the big headlines in the phoenix paper are about the priests in tucson.

  "church hid abuse, victims say".

  it was covered over and the priests were moved around and promoted.

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  detective

  It's all over the news here in Boston. Every day another story. The news outlets are completely frenzied on the archdiosese cover-ups. It seems unlikely that they would shift focus at this point to a much smaller sect. The best bet to get in the papers here is to find a columnist with conservative or pro-Catholic leanings and get word to them. Even then, it'd probably look to much like trying to shift focus to save face so I doubt there would any takers in these parts at the moment.

  Though I hate to say this, it's all about the spin you put on your argument. In my opinion, the key factor in getting the public's attention and outrage is to focus on the fact that known pedophiles are being sent to their doors. Of course, not every witness is a pedophile but you'd have to introduce the concept of "is this person at my door a known or alleged pedophile" into the public's awareness.

  It might be difficult to get the media attention that the issue deserves right now, especially in areas where Catholic pedophilia scandal is getting the exposure. However, I still think it's good to keep trying regardless.
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  JWs NoPart of World ExceptIn Congressional Hearing

  by MadApostate in

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  charles canady [chairman of the subcommittee] presiding.. .

  ms. wigfall.

  mr. scott.

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  detective

  I'd be interested to see a copy of the oath in question. Particularly the part where it requires her to kill another human being?!
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  Liver transplant from living donor cures hemophili

  by detective in

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  we've heard the watchtower say that organ transplants can change your personality but this story suggests a transplant can cure you- twice over!.

  http://www2.bostonherald.com/lifestyle/health_fitness/live02112002.htm.

  liver transplant from living donor cures hemophiliac .

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  detective

  We've heard the watchtower say that organ transplants can change your personality but this story suggests a transplant can cure you- twice over!

  http://www2.bostonherald.com/lifestyle/health_fitness/live02112002.htm

  Liver transplant from living donor cures hemophiliac

  by Michael Lasalandra
  Monday, February 11, 2002

  In an apparent medical first, an Abington man who underwent a living donor liver transplant last summer got a huge bonus benefit - he was cured of his hemophilia.

  ``To this day, it's still hard to fathom,'' said Tom Wales, a husband and father of a 12-year-old boy. ``Hemophilia has been a part of my life for 39 years.''

  As a result of the cure, Wales is now able to play catch with his son for the first time and is considering taking up skiing once he undergoes a back operation until now considered too risky.

  Hemophilia, an inherited blood disorder, prevents blood from clotting normally, causing excessive bleeding.

  ``It's a whole new life,'' said the 39-year-old former welder. ``I feel like I'm reborn.''

  It may be the first time that a living donor transplant has been performed on a hemophiliac, experts said.

  Dr. Elizabeth Pomfret, one of four surgeons involved in performing the liver transplant at the Lahey Clinic, said hemophilia is caused by a deficiency of factor VIII, a protein made in the liver that allows blood to clot.

  ``He tells me all the time the most incredible part of this whole thing is that he is no longer a hemophiliac,'' she said. ``In the past, anytime he would suffer any kind of injury, even just a bruise from fooling around with his son, he would need a transfusion and (an infusion of) factor VIII.''

  Like many hemophiliacs, Wales contracted hepatitis C from a blood transfusion and it eventually caused him to develop cirrhosis of the liver. That's why he needed the transplant.

  Wales said a liver specialist had told him years ago that a transplant would cure his hemophilia, but he also told him ``they don't do transplants for that reason.''

  He went on a waiting list for a cadaver transplant two years ago, but his doctors at Lahey Clinic told him he probably wouldn't make it, as it can take several years to get to the top of the list.

  They said his best hope was a transplant from a relative or friend, where surgeons take a portion of the donor's healthy liver and transplant it into the sick patient after removing the diseased organ.

  Wales' brother-in-law, Walter Moran of Hanover, offered and proved a suitable tissue match.

  ``I was blown away,'' Wales said. ``It takes a special person to consider something like that.''

  Wales said he started feeling better immediately after receiving the transplant.

  Before the operation, he said, ``I was sluggish all the time. I probably felt like I was 60 years old or older. I'd fall asleep during the day.''

  Although Pomfret said it was known that a successful liver transplant from a cadaver would cause his hemophilia to go away, it was not so clear that a living donor transplant would do the same thing.

  ``We just weren't sure if just giving him a piece of a liver would do it,'' she said.

  Blood tests taken soon after the transplant, however, showed the new liver was making plenty of factor VIII.

  ``It was really quite remarkable,'' she said.

  Fewer than 50 hemophiliacs have received liver transplants, said Dr. Arthur Rabinowitz, hematologist at Lahey.

  But because more and more hemophiliacs are developing end-stage liver disease, ``more and more are getting liver transplants,'' said Steven Humes of the National Hemophilia Foundation.

  However, he said he had never heard of a living donor liver transplant performed on a hemophiliac.

  At the University of Pittsburgh, where pioneering liver transplant surgeon Dr. Thomas Starzl discovered 13 years ago that a transplant could cure hemophilia, doctors have performed about 30 transplants on hemophiliacs, including seven with HIV.

  But none has been a living donor transplant, said Dr. John Fung, chief of transplantation.

  Nobody, however, is suggesting that liver transplantation be done just to cure hemophilia.

  ``That's not something we would recommend,'' Humes said, citing the traumatic surgery involved - for both donor and recipient.

  ``Liver transplantation can cure hemophilia but it wouldn't be appropriate in the absence of liver disease,'' said Rabinowitz. ``The operation has a high mortality potential.''

  Science, instead, is looking to gene therapy to cure the inherited blood disorder. Researchers at a number of locations are studying inserting enough healthy clotting factor genes into patients' liver cells for their blood to clot normally.

  One study, published last year by doctors at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, raised hopes that the technique may work.

  The technique was tested on patients with hemophilia A, the most common form of the disorder, which afflicts 15,000 in the United States. It is the form that had afflicted Wales.
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  Meeting Quality People

  by mikepence in

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  i wanted to put this out to this community in general, although i know that there are no easy answers.. growing up a jw, it is difficult to not be somewhat socially retarded.

  your social circle is prescribed, and widening out beyond the small group of the congregation is frowned on.

  even 'excessive' association wiht neighboring congregations is frowned on.. the biggest challenge i have encountered as an ex-jw is this: how do you find quality people to befriend and associate with?.

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  Look into adult education programs in your area. They are often cheaper than university programs and are good sources for exploring new hobbies. Most offer cooking classes, wine tasting programs, dance classes, photography classes etc.
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  Beth Sarim

  by larc in

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  how many of you knew about beth sarim when you were a jehovah's witness?

  our most frequent poster, waiting, did not know about it until she left the religion.

  i happen to know about it because my aunt berta lived there after rutherford's death.

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  I recall seeing a scan of Beth Sarim's deed a few months back. I forget where that was. Does anyone know where a scan of the deed is online nowadays? I also saw the newspaper article of the man claiming to be one of the prophets of old coming to claim his property (after all, his name was one the deed)!
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  JW ELDERS APPLY/RECEIVE CLERGY TAX EXEMPTION

  by MadApostate in

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  opinions of counsel.

  volume 10 - opinions of counsel sbrps no.

  these opinions are subject to revision and editing changes prior to publication.

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  detective

  I guess it pays to be an elder. Nice perks.