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  For those who eat meat , Do you prefer beef, pork, poultry or seafood?

  by StoneWall in

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  just trying to see what the majority on here prefer and why.. going to be having some friends over in a few weeks and trying to decide what to go with this time.. i'm more of a seafood type myself.. i'm glad there's not a red lobster restaurant next door to me or i'd go broke from eating there all the time.. .

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  PrimateDave

  I don't eat much meat anymore, but when I do it is chicken. Given a choice, though, my favorites are shrimp and scallops.

  Dave (mostly vegetarian )
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  Why did you pick your avator or username?

  by cognac in

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  well, i picked my username because that's what i saw in front of me and i like the way it sounded.

  no real story behind that.

  i picked my avator because that's the way i felt.

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  PrimateDave

  My name is Dave. Part of my exit from being a Witness was accepting that I am not a special creation of god per the myth found in Genesis. I am a primate. I am biologically related to all living things on this planet. My hominid ancestry goes back millions of years, not a puny 6,000. My primate ancestry goes back tens of millions of years before that. And on it goes to the first lifeforms that gained a toehold in an ancient sea.

  My avatar is me.

  Dave
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  Ugly cars!

  by crapola in

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  i have seen many ugly new cars.

  what is the ugliest new car you have seen?

  my pick would ne the nissan cube!

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  PrimateDave

  I had a Toyota Echo. Even I thought it was an ugly car, but it got great mileage.

  Dave
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  Do You Ever Worry About the Food You Eat?

  by sammielee24 in

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  i always like a good documentary so i'll probably catch this one when it comes out...sammieswife.. new film exposes unsavoury side of us food industryfor millions of americans, a trip to the cinema involves loading up on popcorn and supersized drinks before the show.

  by leonard doyle in washington .

  published: 7:05pm bst 14 jun 2009. film claims chemicals make chickens grow to maturity twice as quickly as they would naturallyphoto: epabut when the much-anticipated documentary food, inc. opens this week, many may find themselves unable to finish their snacks as the film exposes some unsavoury realities about how food reaches the dinner table.. "there are no seasons in the american supermarket", a voice intones in the opening scene as a camera swept past supermarket shelves groaning with plump-breasted chickens, perfect cuts of meat and bountiful fruit, vegetables and grains.. major food producers would not agree to be interviewed for the movie and they tried to ban the filmmakers from their stock yards, pig farms and chicken barns.but the producers fought off law suits, grabbing headlines and impressive reviews as they aim to do for the food industry what former vice president al gore's controversial documentary an inconvenient truth did for debate about climate change.. the documentary was produced by the same company that made an inconvenient truth, which was widely criticised by global warming sceptics for its apocalyptic approach.

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  PrimateDave

  Yes, I do think about the food I eat. I've seen documentaries and read books about our modern food system. On one hand, it is truly a wonder of modern technology and social organization that so many can be feed so well and safely on a scale never before imagined or possible in human history. On the other hand, the so-called "green revolution" of the last century committed humanity to an industrialized form of agriculture based on then abundant fossil fuel energy and huge inputs of petrochemical derived pesticides and natural gas derived fertilizers. It is a for-profit system that ignores ecological damage and the eventual depletion of finite resources.

  On a more personal level, I'm concerned about limiting my intake of highly refined food products and increasing my consumption of whole, plant-based foods. I try to eat as little animal derived food as possible. I'm not a fanatic about it either. If I really, really want some fried chicken, I'll eat some. Then again, I might look for a meat substitute product based on soy and wheat gluten. Sure, it's a manufactured and refined plant food, but at least it doesn't come from a sick animal loaded with hormones and antibiotics.

  I've learned that it is difficult to change life long eating habits, even with all the research I've done and the information that is available to me.

  Dave
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  Be realistic in 2009! Why Politics will NEVER turn on Religion in our society!

  by Witness 007 in

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  communism is dead and the usa is a strongly christian, tolarant, democratic nation, it just won't happen here.

  muslim nations are fanatical about their dedication....no chance.

  it's silly to think of religions as a whole being banned....this is just a witness bad dream, never happen in a million years..

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  PrimateDave

  The whole idea of "Babylon the Great" representing "false religion" in the book of Revelation is not based on good Biblical Scholarship. See this thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/86994/1/Babylon-the-Great-who-is-she

  So, there's not really much point in speculating about something that was never even intended by the original writer of the so-called prophecy in question.

  Dave
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  What's Your Version of The Truth About "The Truth"

  by Scott77 in

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  undoubtedly, many on jwn joined the watchtower corporation after learning the "'truth".

  others were born into the "truth".

  regardless of reasons for acceptance, the "truth" did became a rallying central theme of our lives over many years.

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  PrimateDave

  I basically read Timothy Campbell's "Beyond Jehovah's Witnesses" website back in 2006. From there I followed his advise to "destroy my faith" by reading Crisis of Conscience and Who Wrote the Bible? I also spent some time reading the Talk Origins website. Thus, I freed myself from the Truth TM by getting to know the real truth about the Governing Body, the origins of what we call the Bible, and the science behind the Theory of Evolution. The rest, as they say, is history.

  Dave
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  For those that were raised in the Truth, why did YOUR PARENTS become JW's?

  by BonaFide in

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  it's weird putting two and two together after 40 years of have the two things separate.. my uncle was killed in a car accident in august of 1969. i was a child, but i remember my mother being very sad and crying and staying in her room.. it was in october of 1969 that the witnesses first visited my mom.

  my mom was in the front yard watching us kids when jw's came door-to-door.

  that sister and my mom are still friends to this day.. anyway, my mom started studying.

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  PrimateDave

  I just wanted to clarify my first statement in my previous post, just in case. It could be construed as though my mother's parents studied with my father's mother, but that didn't happen. They lived in different parts of the country and didn't meet until sometime in the '70s.

  Dave
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  For those that were raised in the Truth, why did YOUR PARENTS become JW's?

  by BonaFide in

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  it's weird putting two and two together after 40 years of have the two things separate.. my uncle was killed in a car accident in august of 1969. i was a child, but i remember my mother being very sad and crying and staying in her room.. it was in october of 1969 that the witnesses first visited my mom.

  my mom was in the front yard watching us kids when jw's came door-to-door.

  that sister and my mom are still friends to this day.. anyway, my mom started studying.

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  PrimateDave

  My mother's parents and my father's mother studied back in the '50s.

  My mother's parents were relatively well off financially, so I don't know what emotional motivation caused them to become Witnesses. My mother really took to it and made it "her own" so to speak. She pioneered and moved to South Carolina to help out where the need was greater, and there she met my father.

  My father's mother faced severe problems trying to raise a family without much help from my grandfather. If my father ever wrote the story, I'm sure it would make for an interesting read. From what I understand, studying with the Witnesses saved my grandmother's life because she was at the end of her ability to cope. Being a Witness gave her something to live for, and she made great efforts to attend meetings and go out in service despite severe opposition from my grandfather. This probably had a great impact on my father.

  My parents are still faithful and active, and I expect they will be in for life. I do not have any bad feelings towards them for having raised me in this religion. I don't believe there is any such a thing as a perfect life, so I try not to piss and moan about "what could have been."

  Dave
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  in love with a JW

  by jimcic in

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  hi im new here but i came for advice im not a religous person but i'm in love with a jehovahs witness,.

  she says she also loves me very much but she wants me to jump ship and become a witness,.

  do you think there is some way that the two of us can be together or am i just dreaming,.

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  PrimateDave

  Tell her in no uncertain terms that you are not converting because you cannot believe in a god that would kill 6 billion people, which is of course what every active and faithful Witness is currently expecting their god to do at Armageddon.

  Tell her you don't want to give up living a normal life with your friends and family, which is of course what every active and faithful Witness will expect of you once you join.

  Tell her you want to celebrate holidays and send your children to college, which are of course things that faithful and active Witnesses prohibit and actively discourage.

  Tell her you expect to live a long life and grow old with the one you marry, that you expect to be living in "this old world" thirty, forty, even fifty years from now, because there will never be an Armageddon as taught by faithful and active Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Ask her if she will leave the Watchtower Society for you. Tell her: "It's me or them."

  Dave
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  American cities to be 'pruned'?

  by besty in

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  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/5516536/us-cities-may-have-to-be-bulldozed-in-order-to-survive.html.

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  dozens of us cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the obama administration to tackle economic decline.

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  PrimateDave

  I see nothing wrong with this. It is certainly not "socialist" or an Obama thing like some of the comments suggest below the article. If the cities can't afford to exist in their current state of being, then it is only good business practice to shrink. However, the power to decide should, imo, remain a local decision and not a federal mandate. Instead of going into the red to subsidize growth, city governments should live within their means, as should all levels of government, including the federal. Of course, sometimes the responsible thing to do is also political suicide.

  Dave