I like many of their songs. The one that comes to my mind is "Fool on the Hill". Sérgio Mendes & Brazil '66 did a version of it that I really love, one of the first songs I can remember from my childhood. Something about the lyrics really made an impression on me at a young age.
"The fool on the hill sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head see the world spinning round."
Dave
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The Beatles - Your Favorite Songs or Albums from Them ?
by flipper infolks !
thought i'd start another music thread up to see what your favorite picks are !
one of my all time favorite groups .
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Came to this site to research.. J.W
by cluless ini came to this site initially to research about jehovahs witnesses.and oboy what i learnt.
goodbye to that believe system.. but was it really necessary that i also now no longer see the bible as the word of god ?..and am turning athiest...?.
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PrimateDave
I was once a strong believer in the Bible and God. Perhaps if I had enjoyed a relatively trouble free life I would never have called into question the basis for my beliefs. Since reality sucks sometimes and my imaginary God never helped out, I deliberately did research to destroy my faith, not just in JW, but also in the Bible and its God. So, I already had my doubts. This site and several others were instrumental in helping me fully explore those doubts.
"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest." Simon and Garfunkel, "The Boxer"
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Sushi **yum**
by LouBelle inthis is one thing in life i truly love -sushi.
if i could afford to eat it every day i would.. tuna - i like it served plain or seared ( too die for ) or what "we" call tuna wrap (raw tuna on the outside, rise in the middle, some little dollop of their mayo and a slither of chilli - delish).
salmon - melt in your mouth heaven .
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PrimateDave
I used to get sushi all the time at the Publix supermarket back in the States. I've yet to find any place that makes sushi here in PR, at least in the area that I live. I guess I need to learn to make it for myself.
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Darin's Tijuana Mexico JW experience
by Junction-Guy indarin is on a business trip in san diego california.
on monday, he and his friend josh went to tijuana mexico.
he said that was the crudest places he has ever seen.
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PrimateDave
Never been to Tijuana. I'm surprised the supposed JW woman understood "disfellowshipped" since it isn't anything like the Spanish equivalent "expulsado". Then again, you never can tell.
I drove to Matamoros a few years ago. It wasn't that big a deal, though. I went with a Mexican (JW) friend who took a truck down and left it with some family of his. I know one thing. I'll never drive 25 hours straight ever again in my life!
Burn, where do you come from originally, if I may ask? BTW, yes, I really do live in Puerto Rico, but I'm a norteamericano.
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Why socialism will not work in America...
by zeroday inthe great experiment is failing.... .
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/11/mncuud91o.dtl.
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Well, Burn and Mincan, we seem to enjoy similar reading material. I've read Twilight in the Desert and The Long Emergency and regularly visit Kunstler's website for his weekly updates. Another recommended read is David Goodstein's Out of Gas: The End of the Age of Oil which examines the science of energy use and oil depletion from a physicist's point of view. I used to be a fan of the FTW website, but I'm a bit burned out on Ruppert now. I also spent a bit of time over at Jay Hanson's dieoff.org for some light reading. I recently downloaded and watched the documentary What a Way to Go which goes further than the classic The End of Suburbia in attempting to show how unsustainable our modern lives truly are. I try to remain as objective as possible, and while much of what I have read seems very plausible, I also try to remain skeptical and not buy into everything that some "expert" writes. The more you know, however, the more you can spot the bull caca.
On a more positive note, I've read a bit about Permaculture and have Bill Mollison's Permaculture: A Designer's Manual, a huge text book on sustainable agriculture and alternative economies. It is borderline utopist stuff, and I'm not a utopian or cornucopist. Even so, I've been reading Jared Diamond's Collapse, and there have been some human societies that have succeeded for thousands of years by adapting to their local environments and practicing permaculture techniques suited to their region along with adopting population control methods. Who knows what the future may bring, but we all need to share ideas. At this time I lack the resources to start growing my own food, but it is something I want to get into in the future.
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In the US, why are many prices doubling, tripling? What is going On?
by Fisherman ingold, produce, foods, things comming out of china, turkey,... prices keep going up, up, up, umbelievably?.
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does anyone have facts?.
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PrimateDave
Keep in mind that a dollar is a debt note. In other words, each dollar you receive or spend has been borrowed into existence based on the "faith" in the ability of the United States, via the labor of its citizens and natural resources, to pay back the debt. The problem is paying back a debt with debt notes requires even more debt to be borrowed into existence. If the ability of the borrowers to pay back the debt becomes compromised, then the perceived value of debt decreases, and the debt notes "lose value" in relation to real goods and services.
As to the global situation, it's unsustainable. I highly recommend Jared Diamond's recent book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed.
Avoid the corporate news networks and do some in depth reading to understand what is happening in the world. Books on history, archeology, sociology, geology, and other basic sciences are good for starters. It also helps to understand the nature of energy and its use in the modern world. There is so much to learn and there has never in history been so much information and knowledge available to anyone practically at their fingertips.
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Death is a Terrible thing...
by KW13 inhas it sunk in for you people that your going to die yet?
i'm still avoiding the thought but it lurks in the back of my mind, i'm aware someday i've got to address it - like many here i didnt expect to live this far in this system, so i haven't any plan for life as of yet.. death frightens me.
i cannot sometimes watch a film with death of a character in a tragic way - there one moment with family/friends and a life and then not...i read the story about challenger the rocket that exploded and how the crew onboard that shuttle may well of been aware they were going to die.
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Has it sunk in for you people that your going to die yet?
Yes, it has. I will turn 40 this year and my body has been telling me about it in some subtle ways. All animals die. Humans are animals. It's just a matter of when and how. Another sobering thought is that 99% of the people alive today will be dead by 2100. That's almost 7 billion people. Sure, someone born Today will see 2101, but it won't be me. And lot's of people born Today will be dead long before 2100. So, this will be a century of human death like no other in human history. It seems a cruel joke of the Universe that beings can gradually attain sentience and then lose it in an instant of time. The Universe isn't about love, though. To be honest, it's not healthy to dwell on death too much. Just accept it as inevitable and get on with living.
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Growing a Beard: Reaction from JWs
by compound complex inhey there,.
how have jws reacted to a fellow member who decides to grow a beard?
i'm speaking of the brothers (unshaven).. thanks,.
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Beards? Nah. I've got a 'stash and long hair that ties back nicely into a ponytail. I've only had one comment from a JW who asked "Hey, are you trying to be a rock star?" lol
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Why socialism will not work in America...
by zeroday inthe great experiment is failing.... .
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/11/mncuud91o.dtl.
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PrimateDave
In my original post I stated that the linked news article presented did not in my opinion support the conclusion of the original poster. Does the current governmental structure in California (and elsewhere) face problems? Yes. Is California a Socialist State? No. Can suddenly implementing Socialism in California in the traditional sense fix those problems? No. As I will attempt to explain, a wholesale change of economic structure would be an unmitigated disaster. Also, do not confuse Social Services provided by an Authoritarian Republic with a Command Economy (California, United States of America) with a full blown Socialist State (are there any "true" Socialist States?) or even a Social Democratic government (Sweden; Kerala, India; etc.).
One has to look at human society as a kind of "ecosystem". As with biological ecosystems, it is highly integrated and complex. Major changes implemented into the "environment" pose a grave danger of system collapse. A major political and economic change could put millions on the street in short order and even cause a complete economic collapse. As an example, consider the collapse of the former Soviet Union and, more recently, Argentina. The fact that Russia and Argentina have managed to recover is due to the overall global economic expansion that has happened in recent years which is attributable to a current abundance of petroleum based energy and an ever increasing liquidity of the money supply. As a result, the human ecosystem (always just a subset of the Earth's ecosystem) has grown many more humans and the temporary objects of our culture (buildings, cars, highways, power grids, etc. - all temporary cultural artifacts maintained by continuous inputs of petroleum-based energy purchased by government sanctioned, privately made debt notes).
That doesn't mean that we are currently on the right path, either. Making minor changes cause disruptions in the system which can adversely affect significant portions of the population. As an example of that consider so-called economic liberalization programs (free trade agreements, deregulations, etc.) that are like breaking the levees in a floodplain. In effect, old economic structures and relationships are swept away by new ones. This is not a bad thing in and of itself, but those who stand to profit the most are those who plan these restructurings and those who suffer are often the people at the "bottom" who have little say in the matter. I may be incorrect in this, but I think some have called this "disaster capitalism". There is nothing wrong with Capitalism in and of itself. I think that it works fine when practiced in a lawful, ethical manner.
Another problem I see with our present human ecosystem is its inherent unsustainability. While some praise capitalism and the "free hand of the market", our economic ecosystem is highly manipulated to ensure constant growth. That is why "recession" is such an ugly word to most economists. It is also a reason why attempts to soften or prevent market corrections are made by the Federal Reserve. Thus, my reference to "Bubble Ecomonics" in my previous post. Our human economic ecosystem seems to suffer similar problems to our modern industrial agricultural system. Both require ever increasing inputs of resources (liquidity and petrochemicals) to achieve increasingly diminishing returns.
Wow! If you've read this far, thank you! I can't claim to know all that much, but I do like to read and try to get a grasp on the bigger picture. I find it hard to argue points anymore because new information always comes along to make old information obsolete. It is why I have no solutions to any modern problems of mankind, only questions. I admit that some of my ideals conflict with my other ideals. I put this post "out there" not as a definitive "answer", only as a peek at the complexity of the world we live in where there is no "one right way".
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Fake PayPal Scam Email Alert...
by brinjen ini just this suspiscious looking email delivered to me:.
you're billing information !.
you to update the billing information.
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PrimateDave
I get these for Paypal and Ebay all the time. If you set your browser to show the "status bar", you can pass over any link to see its real destination in the space at the bottom of your browser window. Besides that, NEVER use the link provided in an email if you are unsure about the sender.
If in doubt about your account, log in to your account directly at the official web site to check your account status. While these basic precautions seem obvious to many of us, there are also many who, believe it or not, are new to the internet and/or are not technically inclined enough to understand why a page that says it is Paypal or Ebay isn't.
lol @ brinjen! I've done the same thing, logging in with swear words sometimes. I used to report phishing to the appropriate company, but it always happens again anyway, even though I've never had my account information stolen.
Dave