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  I've been invited to the convention

  by 2112 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, i've been out for 15 yrs.

  my wife is still in and very zelous.

  she is really begging me to go with her this sunday.

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  The DC parts and complete audio recordings are here for your pleasure.

  http://www.mysurveillancecams.com/deliverance.htm. Site removed, sorry!
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  Bethel Letter to Publishers (US Bethel Layoffs)

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every september, at the beginning of the jw "service year", a letter to publishers is printed in the km.

  this letter addresses recent layoffs at bethel:.

  our kingdom ministry september 2006 (for united states of america), page 1. dear kingdom publishers:.

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  Every September, at the beginning of the JW "Service Year", a letter to publishers is printed in the KM. This letter addresses recent layoffs at Bethel:

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  Our Kingdom Ministry September 2006 (For United States of America), page 1

  Dear Kingdom Publishers:

  Let the Will of Jehovah Take Place." (Acts 21:14) This was the title of a symposium presented to the United States Bethel family by Governing Body and Branch Committee members on the evening of Monday, December 26, 2005. It was explained that as a result of the simplification of certain branch operations, some Bethel family members would be invited to serve in the United States field in various assignments where the excellent training they have received at Bethel could be put to good use.

  Improved technology has made our shipping and printing facilities more efficient. This has reduced the need for volunteers in the Bethel home. On the other hand, there is a growing need for more "workers [in the] harvest." (Luke 10:2) As one member of the Governing Body observed: "We can buy machines to do our printing for us, but machines cannot preach the good news." Therefore, mature, experienced brothers and sisters who have benefited from Bethel training are being assigned to the field where they will be able to contribute much to the preaching and disciple-making work. A number of congregations in the United States branch territory will benefit from their help.

  We are confident that Jehovah will richly bless the adjustments being made to balance the need for faithful workers at Bethel with the needs in the field.

  Your brothers,
  United States Branch Office
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-27-06 WT Study (FOCUS ORGANIZATION)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 08-27-06 wt study (july 15, 2006, pages 19-24 )(focus on organization).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  the people making the comments essentially worship the organization

  Exactly. In the JW mind the FDS = Jehovah, reject the FDS means rejecting Jehovah.
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  Why I left Islam

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  close to that time, my father decided to go back to our country of origin.

  my mother decided to cover her hair when we went back, even though palestinians at the time were not too "religious".

  by now you may not want to read on any more since you found out my place of origin, even though i am very proud to be american.

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  The first woman to remove her veil and challenge the conscription of the clerics was strangled to death for her actions defying the mullahs.

  Carmel, what point are you trying to prove?
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  HELP! I Can't Find The Resolutions!!!

  by Sunspot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just spent the last hour looking through old threads trying to find the "resolutions" read at the last dc that someone so kindly listed here fairly recently!

  i simply cannot find that thread!

  annie

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  This isn't the link, but it is a PDF with the complete resolution. Hope that helps.

  http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FE5532A505C6638B
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  Jesus Will Go to Hell For This!

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did jesus convict himself with his own words?

  jesus says that words alone can have serious consequences:.

  (matthew 5:22) .

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  Did Jesus convict himself with his own words?
  
  Jesus says that words alone can have serious consequences:

  (Matthew 5:22) . . .However, I say to YOU that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·hen´na.

  But when Peter admonished Jesus to back away from his martyrdom, Jesus snapped:

  (Matthew 16:21-23) . . .From that time forward Jesus Christ commenced showing his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the older men and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised up. 22 At this Peter took him aside and commenced rebuking him, saying: "Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this [destiny] at all." 23 But, turning his back, he said to Peter: "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men."

  Not only did Jesus call Peter a deragatory name, he called him "Satan"! How bad can you get?

  Was Peter maliciously betraying Jesus? The Society says:

  Watchtower 2005 3/15 p. 11 par. 6 Living No Longer for Ourselves

  Peter immediately "took [Jesus] aside and commenced rebuking him, saying: ‘Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this destiny at all.’" How did Jesus respond? "Turning his back, he said to Peter: ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men.’" What a contrast there was between the two outlooks! Jesus willingly accepted the self-sacrificing course God had assigned him—one that would lead to his death on a torture stake within a few months. Peter recommended a comfortable course. "Be kind to yourself," he said. Peter undoubtedly had good intentions. Still, Jesus rebuked him because Peter had on that occasion allowed himself to be influenced by Satan. Peter had "not God’s mind, but that of men."—Matthew 16:22, 23; footnote.

  On the other hand, regarding name-calling they say:

  Watchtower 1978 4/15 p. 22 The Sermon on the Mount—Prolonged Anger Can Be Deadly

  Jesus then went a step farther, saying: "Whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Gehenna." (Matt. 5:22c) The Greek word rendered "you despicable fool" is moré. A similar-sounding Hebrew term (moreh) means "rebellious," "mutinous." Whereas raca suggests intellectual stupidity, moré designates one as morally worthless, an apostate and rebel against God. In his Hebrew and Talmudical Exercitations, John Lightfoot points out: "‘Raca’ denotes indeed ‘morosity, and lightness of manners and life:’ but ‘fool’ judgeth bitterly of the spiritual and eternal state, and decreeth a man to certain destruction."

  Persons who would denounce their fellow in such a way would be "liable to the fiery Gehenna." Here Jesus refers to the Valley of Hinnom (Hebrew, Gei Hinnom) near Jerusalem, which became a garbage dump where fires continually burned to consume refuse and carcasses that were thrown into it. According to the Greek Lexicon by Liddell and Scott, in that valley "the corpses of the worst malefactors were burnt." If the fires of Gehenna did not wholly consume those carcasses, worms and maggots that bred there would finish the job.—Isa. 66:24; Mark 9:47, 48.

  Jesus used Gehenna as a fitting symbol of eternal destruction. Since a person who would condemn his fellow as a "despicable fool" worthy of Gehenna would be desiring everlasting destruction for that one, from God’s standpoint the one uttering such a condemnation brings that severe sentence upon himself.—Compare Deuteronomy 19:17-19.

  Opinions anyone?
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  A True Scholar In Our Midst, Leolaia

  by Skoshi in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  her posts for a very long time were overflowing with an obvious scholarship.

  i have avidly read her posts and have tucked away as much as my much smaller brain could be forced to take in.

  i'm sure others have openly expressed their admiration and appreciation for her, but i would like to do so here.

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  Am I mistaken or is Leolaia actually male?

  EDITED: My mistake! Sorry and a huge fan. (Note to self: Research first...post second)
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  How Do You Respond To: "Where Else Will We Go"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when scared jws even think about leaving the organization, they often wonder where they'll go to instead.......any responses?

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  Is it "where" or "whom"??

  (John 6:68) . . .Simon Peter answered him: "Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life;...

  This is the definitive example of how the Society replaces Jesus with an organisation. The organisation is the mediator, the salvation, the way, truth and the life. Not Jesus.

  Is that Christain?
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  Is the Internet An Answer to the JW Cliche Lament - "Where Else Can We Go?"

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in his article at freeminds on when prophecies fail, about the witnesses and cognitive dissonance, randy watters wrote the following, including an insightful quote from barbara harrison grazzutti.

  it may seem incomprehensible how the witnesses could ignore the implications of each disconfirmation.

  outsiders view the witnesses as lacking common sense for not leaving the organization after numerous failures.

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  Is it "where" or "whom"??

  (John 6:68) . . .Simon Peter answered him: "Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life;...

  This is the definitive example of how the Society replaces Jesus with an organisation. The organisation is the mediator, the salvation, the way, truth and the life. Not Jesus.

  Is that Christain?
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  Joe Hovah and his SEVENTEEN Commandments! Not Merely Ten!

  by Mistah MOJO in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  3. thou shalt not take the name of the lord thy god in vain..

  6. thou shalt not kill..

  8. thou shalt not steal..

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  This allowed Moses ( who was constantly in communication with God ) to present the commandments with some modification and updating of the situation in light of their pending entrance into the land of Canaan,

  Oh, that explains it. Sounds like something I would hear from the FDS regarding changing doctrine.