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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

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  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  catbert

  Tigerman and Daniel, I will agree the last 150 years have been an interesting "blip" on the course of history. I chose to be facinated by it.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

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  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Tigerman, your post indicates an empty planet (universe?), void of all life I believe. I don't see that happening. Each passing year and century man becomes more civilized. As man becomes more knowledgable, and continues to fear his ultimate demise, he (she) becomes more astute at solving the big problems. Every generation throughout history has felt the end was near, and the problems insurmountable. And yet, some life goes on, some does not.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Oldflame, watch any show that reveals animals in the wild. My wife is an animal lover and can not watch these shows. People portray humans as being the disease of the planet. Humans are obviously the most civilized creatures on the planet. And they will survive and strive, some human groups will not. There will be extinctions. It is as it has always been.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Tigerman, why is an extinction of an animal a "bad thing"?
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  catbert

  Daniel, First of all, the people that live long lives in the future will be living on less than 1800 calories per day. I believe that is a very important point. And presently, solar cells are not efficient, but they will become more efficient, but not affordable for most people. 1500 watts per square meter is a lot of energy, assuming you live in a sunny climate. Again, I believe there will be a larger separation between the wealthy and the poor. Wealthy people will live much longer in the future do to medical advances. The medical insurance industry will ultimately have to reform and cater to the wealthy. The mantra in the future will be "You cant save everyone".
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Daniel, Much of the energy used on the planet is derived from the Sun, whether it be fossil fuels, or alchohol derived from plant life. The Sun will continue to project its 1500 watts per square meter of planet surface area. The real problem in this conversation is "cheap and abundant" fuel for those that cannot afford to buy new electric cars and stick solar panels on their roofs like rich environmentally conscious heroes like Ed Begely Jr.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Daniel, This is what I predict. Life will continue to get much better for a smaller percentage of the planets population, and much worse for a larger percentage of the worlds population. Survival of the fittest.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  catbert

  Daniel, What resource do you think that we will run out of that mans technology will not find a solution for?
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  Daniel, I think the educated people on the planet are using the resources much faster than the uneducated. A byproduct of civilization, education, affluence and better standards of living is increased use of resources.
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  Resources will be gone by 2050

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  beijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.

  populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".

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  catbert

  Its going to be an interesting challenge for future generations. What will be interesting is whether man will become more civilized, or will a "survival of the fittest" attitude kick in.
  Man has been much more civilized in the last 150 yrs compared to earlier generations. Two possible outcomes are :
  
  1) Life becomes more like Star Trek: New Generation
  
  or
  
  2) Soylent green
  
  
  I love spectating and watching the changes.