I don't have the dino, but I have your book right here in my hand. It's called "brave new world". Just thought you might like to know.>
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very good
just thought i'd post that i was amused..
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The JW Dinosaur help me out...
by Huxley ini requested this once before, but now i looked at the old topic and the picture has been removed.... can someone scan that little dinosaur that was printed on the inside cover of the green nwt?.
i would be so happy if someone can find him and post his cute picture.... .
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Heard today: "Wow, why's it so long?"
by Elsewhere inthat's right, i was at frys browsing around to kill some time and while i was in the computer section i saw a kid and his dad looking at monitors.
the kid apparently had never seen a crt monitor before.
damn... makes me feel old.
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Don't you just hate it when your brain totally shuts down like that?
I think its a family disease, because my mom would always start looking around for them and then ask exasperatedly "Has ANYONE seen my sunglasses???" We would just look at her and smirk and then focus our eyes on her head.
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Do you have any kind of obsession?
by JH ini'm obsessed with new cars.
i'd trade a $50,000 car for a brand new $40,000 one the year after, and trade it again for a $30,000 brand new one the year later, and trade it again for a $20,000 one year after that.
as long as i get a new one every year or so, i love the feeling, even if it's less equipped.
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Yes, cults in general, the Watchtower in particular. It's a damn fascinating religion ( vomit inducing, chilling, queer, despicable, just plain WRONG) with some very entertaining aspects to it as well. (I am thinking of the golden age articles where they spout off about vaccinations causing a woman going insane, milk being the cure for everything, and other similar trippy "god breathed" articles.)
other than that, probably my favourite rock band, certain causes close to my heart, ,,,,, and, oh yeah, englishmen.
and lets not forget rabbit shaped cakes/muffins and other animal shaped pastries. mmmmmm
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Nathan H. Knorr was a big baby
by under_believer inreading crisis of conscience by raymond franz today i came across an account of how knorr acted when franz, alone among governing body members, suggested that the monarchial system of absolute power vested in knorr and his predecessors was unscriptural, and since they had removed that arrangement from the congregations (replacing it with a body of elders arrangement) they should do the same thing at the headquarters: in each case of my doing so, however, the president took the remarks very personally, speaking at great length, his voice tense and forceful, saying that 'evidently some were not satisfied with the way he was handling his job.
' he would go into great detail as to the work he was performing and then would say 'now apparently some don't want me to handle things anymore' and that perhaps he should 'bring it all down here and turn it over to ray franz and let him handle it.
yes folks, this was the way the society's president from 1942 to 1976 acted.
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ah, the NHK infantile tizzy. instead of a toddler bopping you over the head with his rattle and bumbling away with a binky in his mouth when he's challenged to a teethe off, It's middle aged or older religious power broker crossing their arms, souring their face and throwing themselves to the floor "no, me am best bibler, donut kweschun me, my am leadier!"
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Embarassing moment involving a bra and an interview
by kristyann inso i went to this job interview this morning (my semester is finished, and i am looking for something for the summer, and my jury duty just ended, which hopefully i'll get a chance to tell you about some other time).
so i applied at this doctor's office to just do office work and filing and stuff like that.
the place is really great and laid back and it seems like a really fun place to work!.
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so if you get the job then, just be confident you were the breast...er..er..er..best most erm..perky candidate.
All about the brains dont worry;)
thats ok i think most girls have bra troubles now and then...one of mine (not like i was on an interview or anything)...running and flashing, instead of staying stationery then flashing.
my bra basically fell down.
to make it worse, and i know this sounds kind of ym 'trauma' story, a guy i referred to as my stalker was across the street and witnessed this as he came striding across the street to say 'hi'...
don't worry, sounds like you dress and underdress well, and i'm sure they'll look past that and find you well qualified
*do not work with perfume!
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Laughing laughing laughing
by darcy inwow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.
hah.
and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.
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Smellsgood, you are living proof that informing the public is working against the WTS. Good for you for looking into a religion before becoming involved!
...and welcome aboard!
No doubt
God bless the internet and all you rascally apostates out there spreading those *lies* before more people get sucked into spreading the *good news of the kingdom*
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show a little appreciation
by Merry Magdalene in.
and remind someone how glad you are they are here...(i'll start).
jw_researcher...this bud's for you.
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you guys are awesome, you're experiences and insights posted here are priceless in so many various and meaningful ways. Even for a non never have been jw, you're stories have really touched me personally, and though I know sometimes you feel like it may be a pointless exercise in rehashing the past, from where I sit its as good as gold
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Laughing laughing laughing
by darcy inwow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.
hah.
and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.
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Welcome smellsgood,
Wow for someone who was never a JW you are well into the material. What made you look deeper into the WT doctrine?
Freetosee
Guten Tag, Freetosee, Wie geht es Ihnen? (thats about all I know, but I've been to Germany, and most all of you seem to speak english, extremely well too!)
Well, the condensed version, I got to know someone pretty well (online first, got together in person) who was and is a Jehovah's Witness. Being of a curious mind, I wanted to know more about that religion, so I started researching it, and was SHOCKED at so many of their doctrines, being raised a Christian, so very odd to me, and disturbing. Anyways, I tried to talk to him about it and all I could equate the reaction to was one of a hissing snake. Just immediately. Really did not take well to it, cut off contact. Of course, that made me just keep looking into it, you know COC and all that. The blood issues and the children dying from that really sent a chill down my spine. The sexual abuse cover ups are systemic and atrocious. I'm happy that I am informed about this, it makes me want to actively warn people about them, I don't think generally people know specifically what the Watchtower is about, although churches often have special sermons, etc. about them.
anyways, thats sort of the short of it all, and I must say after the reaction I got from that former friend, it's seriously mindblowing how you guys on this messageboard got out of the WT. Truly magnificent. Respect.
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by darcy inwow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.
hah.
and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.
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Laughing laughing laughing
by darcy inwow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.
hah.
and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.
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None whatsoever.
Darcy says: I suppose it's only reasonable to say that a few years back I declared myself atheist, then moved to agnosticism, and then to general apathy (can we stop arguing now?)
I say: We are not aware of why it is reasonable, you lost all belief in God you are saying. Were the elders aware of this?
, and I even looked into witchcraft at one point (mostly b/c I was being encouraged to associate with a Wiccan study)
Or this?
... but now I'm back here with the witnesses,
*****and I feel most comfortable here.*****
I say: always a surefire way to scale how correct or true ones respective religion is.
At those times, I never initiated contact with apostates, but now I'm not intimidated by it.
I say: I myself have never been in a kingdom hall, and have never studied or even taken a tract from a Jehovah's Witness. Unfortunate at the moment, since I really would love to talk to them about the hideous False Watchtower Prophet
Darcy says: Maybe I like the Witnesses cause I'm laid back. See, I don't like this idea of only having 80 years to live.
I say: you don't like it, so the Watchtowers solution is perfect for you. convenient
Darcy says: So, the Witnesses suit me very nicely
I say: The *Fundamental* LDS (to be honest, the book of Mormon, Joseph Smith himself) suits a man very nicely when he wants to get his honky tonk badonkadonk on with not one but 17 fresh faced sensibly frocked sisters. How does it being convenient to ones desires/fantasies prove much about it?
How could the Watchtower possibly be right about paradise earth, *which in my opinion sounds frightfully like life would have been if God had created man without the possibility of choice , in other words, without the possibility of doing wrong, also without the possibly of truly loving him. That doesn't sound like God's past endeavor, I doubt it will be His future, to automaton mankind* when they have not gotten ONE single prophecy right?(Please look at Deutoronomy, my goodness, was God lying?) Not ONE has come to bear. These are words Jehovah did NOT SPEAK.
Darcy says: since I'd like to take my time to study everything imaginable, and sure it's a leap of faith, but if they are right, then all's the better.
I don't think you are being entirely truthful, but that is ok, I think that by nature this is an evil religion that is spiritually deranged and deceptive. In other words, it's not just intellectual, my brother/sister, in a screwtape letters sense, you've got bigger obstacles.
Try examining the history of the Watch Tower, you won't need anything but their very own publications. False prophets tend to give themselves away when their prophecies turn out ....false. Luckily for you their is a marvelous paper trail.
Darcy says: And I just don't have these problems y'all talk about with them.
So your one subjective seat of observation is enough to topple what is it?? 68,000 members, and 1,000,000 posts of experiences, information, what we would call a MOUNTAIN of circumstantial yet weighty evidence? And this is one messageboard, one web address. This is not the whole canoli.
Not all Mormon women will have crazy powertrip husbands. This does not mean that religion is not a belief system that is riddled with mysoginistic and chauvenistic doctrine/teaching.
Darcy says: Of course, I think a lot has changed. Not to offend, but why doesn't anyone here quote from recent literature instead of all this stuff that's years old.
I say: "Who controls the past controls the present, who controls the present controls the future"
I think this is a cognitive dissonnance tactic on your part. I think a Mormon would love it also if you didn't bring up the fact that the Book of Mormon has been altered 3,000 times since its original printing even though it was WRITTEN IN ENGLISH. No translation required. But they should be entitled to know that, as you are entitled to know the history of the organization you belong to.
Funny you should say that because if I am not mistaken, the Watchtower LOVES to bring up all Christendoms nasty stinky laundry, not from just decades but CENTURIES past. Oh, that's one problem, the Watchtower has only been in existence for 135 years.
Oh, and wasn't it 1914 that Jesus spiritually returned to pick the Watchtower, shouldn't the history leading up to that be incredibly relevant, as well as the work he apparently did through the organization after that
darcy: That's like criticicizing Windows 95, instead of ;examining Windows XP.
Windows 95 does NOT make the claim to be the sole channel of communication to God, (though I don't see how the never errant "truthful words" that come out of the FDS since it's very beginning ought to be compared to 'criticicizing' Windows 95, while if I don't misunderstand examining Windows xp? sorry? We should stop quoting the Bible altogether, after all, thats not just years, but hundreds and hundreds of years old, translated from very ancient texts. Maybe we'll just criticize that and than examine only the most up to date WT publications?)
Watchtower 1/15/1959 Pages 40 & 41 Par 13 & 14
also, Windows does not invite one to investigate their history so they can be assured it is that channel
Watchtower May 15, 1957 pp.313-315 Appreciating Basic Christian Publications
…Their zeal for knowledge may even prompt them to dig back into things that were published long before they came into the truth, expanding and deepening their understanding, and ever growing in Christian maturity... Do you dig out older publications to expand and deepen your knowledge on subjects about which questions arise? Have you really studied these earlier publications?... How is your background of knowledge? ... Never think: "Oh, I know most of that." For you will find, indeed, that you do not and that you will be strengthened by your additional study...once you have completed your study of them you can then look to even older publications... Only by studying earlier publications and digging back through previous issues of The Watchtower kept in the library at your local Kingdom Hall. There is much in the way of spiritual riches and aids toward mature knowledge in these earlier publications, and their study is most certainly worth your time.
you're non apostate sista