You seem like a very sincere genuine guy. I saw that thread, I myself didn't respond as I could see that you already had more than enough responses to go through. I'm glad you enjoyed it, also glad to hear you have things you'll be looking deeper into. Best wishes in this and all your endeavors.
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I asked... and I have recieved.
by saki2fifty inwell, just go back from my little trip up to austin and had a really great time.
hung out with wifey, visited the state capital, did some site seeing, and conquered the muddy buddy race!
after 3 days away from home, we're now back in houston and i was eager to get back on the board and do some reading.
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Why does the trinity matter... or not?
by drew sagan inhere's what i'm putting out there.
every jw has a list of teachings that they know 'prove' they are the only true religion.
while they turn to many things in order to prove their points, i have noticed a special tendancy to turn to just a few things in the end.
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- JWs don't believe in the immortality of the soul
- JWs don't believe in Hellfire
- JWs use the name Jehovah
- JW's don't believe in the trinity
smellsgood: Such as Christadelphians,,,disbelieve Hell, Trinity, Immortality of the soul....plus, there's a nifty warning about the internet on one of their sites, kindof reminds me of, shoot, that towery religion in beverly heights or something.
http://www.christadelphian.org.uk/net/danger.html
Their doctrine is not unique. Arian who? fourth century, what?
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Compendium of Knowledge
by AnonyMouse infrom links, to personal things you discovered yourself.
i want the dirt on the jehovah's witnesses.
while i've pretty much decided that they are wrong, i want to leave nothing to chance.
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P.S. You're like what I fantasize about in a JW, just go ahead and let's find out what's really up with the WT lol
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Compendium of Knowledge
by AnonyMouse infrom links, to personal things you discovered yourself.
i want the dirt on the jehovah's witnesses.
while i've pretty much decided that they are wrong, i want to leave nothing to chance.
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www.freeminds.org
www.macgregorministries.org
www.jwfacts.com
www.jwfiles.org
www.watchtowerinformationservice.org
They are wrong about everything. :) If at all possible, try and get a hold of Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz too.
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BOOT CAMP
by purplesofa inanyone here been through bootcamp?.
i want to know what it is like for my daughter......... there must be some stories out there ....... also, anyone know heatmiser?
if i remember right, he was in iraq or going.........just curious.. and~~~~ is anyone from south carolina?.
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Hi purplesofa!
My brother ships off to boot camp in a couple days. He's in the National Guard. His friend who was in the Army has told him that it is extremely difficult. You're daughter will be having a rough time I think. I hope you are proud of what she is doing, although I wouldn't know what it would feel like to have your child in the service. How are you feeling about it?
I know that the National Guard is offering all sorts of incentives/bonuses for joining at this time. So the Army probably is too, and that may somewhat explain why there is a larger number of recruits at this time.
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My dad died....
by crazyblondeb insince i consider most of you family, i guess i need to unload.
my dad died.
i found out by looking under the obituaries online.
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deepest condolences, Shelley.
That isn't right no one in your family has contacted you about something as dramatic as that. I wish you weren't in such a tough position where you can't even go to a parents funeral...
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What book or movie most resembles the WTS in your opinion? Why?
by whyizit ini've seen where some former jws compare the wts to certain movies or books (such as the village and 1984).
i just wondered what movies or books reminded you of the wts and why?
did you draw this conclusion before or after you left the organization?
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Yvegeny Zamyatin's "We"
Alot of the elements of the Phantom tollbooth, such as the demon of useless tasks, subtraction soup and all that.
Many parts of Madeliene L'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time" such as "IT" of "CENTRAL central Intelligence" on Camazotz.
and of course George Orwells 1984.
I was reading a novel but I can't remember what it was, it may have been one of William Gibsons, and I was surprised to find that I was reminded of the Watch Tower. Wish I didn't have part-timers.
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Smoking INCREASES booze consumption.....new study
by kid-A inany surprise that bar owners dont want cigarette bans in their establishments?
lol booze and smokes a natural match?jul.
05:56 amjoseph hallstaff reporter.
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Another dirty little scientific ;secret is that nicotine is a mild antidepressent.
Uh-huh. So is ice cream, but it doesnt give you cancer, turn your face into a catcher's mitt,>>
kid-A, I agree with you. It is a hideous thing. BUT, I guess some people have all the luck when it comes to not looking like an old gym sock after habitually smoking for years. All you need to look at is the subject of your Avatar, Johnny D. if I'm not mistaken. He's been a smoker since his teens. He's in his forties. He looks pretty damn good. On the other side of the coin, there is of course the Keith Richards of the world...I think his appearance may be hard drug related too...just maybe.
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and behavioural disorders in children or make you smell like a rotting corpse.
But hey, to each their own! >>>
Now, please tell me this doesn't happen if the smoking isn't done AFTER pregnancy. I've seen to many hoes smoking while the baby delivers in 2-weeks, and I want to grind their face in the dirt. But there are those who will stop smoking while PREGNANT even if they resume the habit. I also despise people who smoke in the car with their children. Or in the house. And one does smell like ass as a smoker... It's repulsive.
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Smoking INCREASES booze consumption.....new study
by kid-A inany surprise that bar owners dont want cigarette bans in their establishments?
lol booze and smokes a natural match?jul.
05:56 amjoseph hallstaff reporter.
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The opposite is true too. When I drink I will chain smoke like a mofo. I had no idea this was delaying my buzz though. Just thought I could hold my liquor lol
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Not quite sure where else to go, I'll give this place a try.
by AnonyMouse ini'll introduce myself:
i'm a person who'd like to remain anonymous.
i'm 16, and recently confessed to my mother my disbelief in her religion (jehovah's witnesses, obviously so).
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I just want to say that you seem very mature and intelligent for a person your age.
Please, don't harm yourself. I know things can get overwhelming, it will get better for you. I'm so pleased that you at least have the internet (nicely done on the extra keyboard) because if you stick around this messageboard, you will find alot of support and people who can relate to your situation. So you are homeschooled, and you don't have any siblings from what it sounds like? Unfortunately, by law, your Mother does have alot of "say-so" in your life right now. There is as you probably know something called legal emancipation from your parents for those extreme instances. I don't think that would be the best thing for you to do. I think that like the first response said, you should focus on your education while you perhaps don't have to work just yet. Focus on that and getting into college. Once you do get into college, the little lid will be off the jar you've been kept in, and you will be free to do as you please. I think it will afford you a social support system as well, which I think at this point will be vital for you, and the reason why I would caution you against leaving your house just yet(among others). Your mother sounds like she needs counselling. Some job placement help.
I cannot imagine how much it would suck to have to live a JW lifestyle you don't believe in while you were powerless in your circumstances. Now, I am assumming that since you are living in a financially strapped situation, that you have not been as of yet able to attend driving school, let alone own a car and pay insurance on it. This of course is very limiting, it would be ideal since you are homeschooled to at least find employment in a nice setting that gets you out of the house for a number of hours a day, gives you contact with people outside the kingdom hall, etc. This of course may not work out right now, and that sucks.
In the end, I think it would be the best maybe to just go along with the program. All the while knowing what a load of rubbish it is. Keep up looking up the truth about the watchtower, I think the internet is the key outlet for some sort of "freedom" for you right now. Thats alot of knowledge at your fingertips, which is good. You probably will just have to keep your head down, attend meetings, you are free intellectually to think what you will. Maybe even try and build a better relationship with your mom. It can be difficult, and takes time. It may feel unnattural, and that may confuse you because it seems like one of those things that should be automatic. It isn't always, and your age is always a difficult time.
I wish you all the best.
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