Not to worry.
JWs can't see the forest.
The trees are in the way.
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master ...... master ....... i sense a disturbance in the forest master..........
Not to worry.
JWs can't see the forest.
The trees are in the way.
Sadly, the Philippines is one place where JWs are growing rapidly. Probably, this will help their cause. Especially in the light of recent scandals. Because Philippine people are VERY family oriented and very loving parents.
It's a 'risk/benefit' thing that would make them shine from this, but Rodney Stark would know more about that.
EVERYONE ELSE knows that you don't blindly send people into a situation like this. The kidnapers and Philippine and American military just got finished fighting a very bloody battle and rescuing a group of innocent missionaries that they had captured and some, beheaded.
Can you really jump up and take credit for 'martyrs' when you stupidly send people into situations in which almost anyone would know that they are going to get hurt? Unfortunately, beheading is not so unusual once you're off the beaten path in the Philippines. Especially now.
Nonetheless, I bet their picture will appear on the cover of 'Awake!'
My heart goes out to these poor Philippine families.
No one should have to suffer such a tragedy.
Were they martyrs, courageous Christians or fools?
Probably all of these, but only the Lord knows for sure.
Please pray for their families.
"u.s. condemns latest abduction by abu sayyaf guerillas.
" go to the last article of related stories underneath "heads of 2 sayyaf hostages displayed in public market.".
also, to the extreme right under highlights gma-7audio-video is dean jasec, watchtower spokeman for the philippines who says that the jws involved "were not officially sent there.
Big public 'persecution' in a presently famous locality might certainly draw the public mind away from the current scandals, wouldn't it?
That almost makes one wonder (cringe) if there was purposefulness to their being sent out there at such a time as this.
I wish I could say, 'No, the WT would NEVER do something like that'.
But I can't.
i ordered crisis of conscience from amazon a couple of days ago and today got a reply back from amazon that they don't have it.
and they won't be getting it.
i want to read mr. franz account.
I suspect this is really good news. Like the book is sold out at amazon!
Hopefully, another printing will be in the works soon.
That means a LOT of people are reading it. More than they expected.
Get in touch with the publisher because those numbers are going to become even greater after the march.
saturday, august 24, 2002 back the halifax herald limited .
pat roque / the associated press .
government soldiers inspect different types of explosives friday on jolo island in the southern philippines.
And if they're raped by the captors and they don't scream, will they be disfellowshipped?
Oh, no, that would bring reproach on Jehovah's name.
That's the idea, WTS.
Just about everything you do brings reproach on Jehovah's name!
muslim rebels in the southern philippines have beheaded two christian hostages, part of a group of jehovah's witnesses seized on tuesday.
the two severed heads were found by the philippines military on the remote southern island of jolo.
the army chief on jolo, brigadier general romeo tolentino, said that a note was attached to one of the heads, saying: "those who do not believe in allah will suffer the same fate.
It's a shame that this conversation has deteriorated so badly.
The fact is, we DON'T KNOW what happened. It is very likely it will come out at a later time, except to the degree that the WT convinces people involved to not speak out about it, except as they direct them to
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muslim rebels in the southern philippines have beheaded two christian hostages, part of a group of jehovah's witnesses seized on tuesday.
the two severed heads were found by the philippines military on the remote southern island of jolo.
the army chief on jolo, brigadier general romeo tolentino, said that a note was attached to one of the heads, saying: "those who do not believe in allah will suffer the same fate.
For the record, they never got out of the minvan.
Surely only their closest friends and relatives knew what they were up to out there.
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i just read that the name, 'jehovah' was created 700 years ago by a catholic monk who took the vowels from the word, 'lord' and combined them with the letters yhwh (the unpronounceable, biblical term for god).. anyone ever heard this or know a credible source for this info?.
now here's potentially something to share with your next visiting jw!.
I've recently heard that - according to Jewish tradition? - God's name is never to be spoken or pronounced by humans.
The scholarly bible-bantering that takes place around this seems testimony enough to the soundness of the idea.
But I'm curious to know if anyone else is familiar with this tacit?
yesterday i asked you know and yardif why they frequent these apostate sites.i asked this question: "how do you justify coming on these boards?".
you know's answer:"the way i understand it, it is a conscience matter.
" when i asked whether he was serious, he replied:"i am serious".when i asked him for further clarification, he suddenly vanished from the conversation.
"Jesus beat the crap outta certain people on a number of occasions"?
Where is that scripture??
Edited by - Dia on 23 August 2002 5:45:5
muslim rebels in the southern philippines have beheaded two christian hostages, part of a group of jehovah's witnesses seized on tuesday.
the two severed heads were found by the philippines military on the remote southern island of jolo.
the army chief on jolo, brigadier general romeo tolentino, said that a note was attached to one of the heads, saying: "those who do not believe in allah will suffer the same fate.
Ella - where is the story about the twin towers?