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  Your Time Spent in Therapy, while you were a Jehovah's Witness and After

  by The wanderer in

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  may not wish to discuss, but nevertheless it does not lessen its.

  importance.. recalling my time spent with a therapistthe watchtower tended to look down on individuals.

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  Wanderer,

  As you may be aware this is very personal stuff but I am willing to share what I went through so that others can benefit in some way, or maybe not at all.....

  When I was just over 30, I was under a lot of stress and was getting very depressed. My husband and I had grown a business that basically took over our lives and I couldn't keep up with the home or two small boys. Our home phone was our business phone and it was answered 24/7 365 days a year. I was the phone person and it felt like an umbilical cord. On top of that my parents had visited over Christmas and my mom made a scene about a few decorations, even taking something off of our front door and flinging it across the living room.

  I had been seeing a counseler and she suggested I go to an intensive, 2 week stay in PA. I did.

  It was considered over a years therapy in those 2 weeks. What came out was that I was still very disfunctional from my disfellowshiping at age 16. The group I was in actually replayed the JC meeting by having me turn around and close my eyes. When I opened them and turned back around all the men in the group were standing in front of me pointing at me in silence. It was absolutely overwhelming. I couldn't stop sobbing. I was asked to turn around again, close my eyes and then reface them, and they were all hugging me.

  They let me cry for as long as I wanted to and then I was given a huge poster board with over 50 signatures and what they thought of me as a person. It was all wonderful, positive things. (they had made it up a head of time).

  I also learned I was extremely angry with my mother, but not with my father. I also learned it was OK to speak my mind and not have to be quiet and except what I am told. I also learned I was a worthwhile person, deserving of respect and allowed to express opinions that might not be liked, and it was ok to not have to measure up to everyones expectations of me. I learned to accept who I was and not what others wanted or needed me to be.

  I sometimes have to go back and remind myself of that, and I don't always do a great job of it, but the experience gave me strength I have relied on for many years.

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  We need an exciting new scandal - Yawn factor 10!

  by AK - Jeff in

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  same ole' news and views on here for a while now.

  let's dig up some dirt people!

  jeff .

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  I posted this at the end of one of my threads,...I think it got lost in the shuffle and don't know that its all that exciting but, Knorr actually told our PO that the end was arriving in 1975.

  With all the denial of that date, I think it's pretty interesting a member of the GB was known to say it in private.

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  How Would You Explain The Stupidity Of The Blood Doctrine?

  by minimus in

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  it seems like the witnesses are going to be told that they they now can take blood---at least some of it!

  i asked my mom a few minutes ago if she would take blood fractions and she said "no!".

  i gave her a head's up on what to expect from the new km.

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  One of my JW relatives became ill about 2 years back and I remember they decided to accept blood factions, or is it fractions? Anyway, my mom was apalled and we had a long conversation about it. I told her I was of the opinion that its either all or nothing, no breaking it apart. She decided she would not take any blood products what so ever for her self. The whole thing has become rather ridiculous in my mind. If the society is going to go this far.....give it up already. Reminds me of the Pharisees once again.

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  Shunning mom is floored by UN scandal..first she's heard of it.

  by restrangled in

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  due to my husbands interactions with my mom with questions about the history of the wbts, i received a phone call from her.

  (keep in mind she is 72 years a witness).

  i brought up the un thing and she said, thats from apostates.

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  I really wouldn't want her to leave, its all she has. What I do want from her is to acknowledge where I stand and that it is reasonable and to stop defending behavior from the GB that is not tolerated in the masses.

  She admitted something to my husband that was very interesting. Her presiding overseer in 1974 had gone to visit Knorr. When the PO got back he told my parents that Knorr had told him the end was definately coming in 1975......now that was a direct quote from a member of the GB about an exact date. After it did not transpire, she wrote the Society about it. She still has her letter and the letter they sent back. I do not know what ithe answer was and I would love to get my hands on that some day. She would not let my husband see it. This is when my father left for good and she had her faith shaken to the core.

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  What would you do? everyones input please!

  by restrangled in

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  i have a great neighbor who has always looked out for us and sent over very expensive pet food at no cost because she is in the business.. she has been a great neighbor all around for many years.

  her daughter and my son are very good friends.. just this week she asked my son to take care of her pets.

  he went surfing today and asked me to cover.. when i went over i was so alarmed, and came back so depressed i do not know what to do.. it is an 800 square foot house with 2 dogs, must be 8 fish tanks full of turtles, a cat,and a parrot sitting in a dusty cage in the dark.

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  Jaguarbass, guess I jumped the gun, good analogy with rattling the cage!

  Finally-free, I don't know what kind of parrot it is (green and yellow) probably middle sized. I had an African Grey parrot, and they do love being with humans out of the cage. When mine couldn't be out, he was kept by a big window so that he could sun himself and watch the world go by. I guess I am also most worried about the bird.

  Thanks everyone for you suggestions, and thanks for listening, sometimes you just have to talk about a situation to get your head wrapped around it.

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  What would you do? everyones input please!

  by restrangled in

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  i have a great neighbor who has always looked out for us and sent over very expensive pet food at no cost because she is in the business.. she has been a great neighbor all around for many years.

  her daughter and my son are very good friends.. just this week she asked my son to take care of her pets.

  he went surfing today and asked me to cover.. when i went over i was so alarmed, and came back so depressed i do not know what to do.. it is an 800 square foot house with 2 dogs, must be 8 fish tanks full of turtles, a cat,and a parrot sitting in a dusty cage in the dark.

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  Tophat,

  Thats what I kind of did today, opened the blinds, cleaned the parrot cage and brought over some fresh fruit for him.

  Of course he bit the hell out of me because he is so frustrated. After that I cleaned her counters of empty cartons and garbage. Made the mistake of leaving the bag in the kitchen and the dogs tore it to shreds so a lot of good I did.

  When her family gets back from vacation I will try to tactfully talk to her, but since she works with animals everyday as a Vet tech, I don't know exactly what good I can do. All her animals are healthy, and she also has a lizard she has hand raised and is now 5 feet long.

  She has 2 turtles that must way 50 pounds each and are as tame as all get out......so what in the world does some one do. Her dogs are happy and healthy. It's the other pets I worry about and the number of pets in that square footage in the midst of absolute clutter and chaos.!

  How does anyone exist like this and remain sane?....Thanks for listening.

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  What would you do? everyones input please!

  by restrangled in

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  i have a great neighbor who has always looked out for us and sent over very expensive pet food at no cost because she is in the business.. she has been a great neighbor all around for many years.

  her daughter and my son are very good friends.. just this week she asked my son to take care of her pets.

  he went surfing today and asked me to cover.. when i went over i was so alarmed, and came back so depressed i do not know what to do.. it is an 800 square foot house with 2 dogs, must be 8 fish tanks full of turtles, a cat,and a parrot sitting in a dusty cage in the dark.

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  Jagurbass, unless you know about animals, this is no situation for them, especially a parrot,... which I have had in my life. They love, sunlight, air, and being out of a cage. I cannot believe your response. apparently you have never had a pet. I do not need medication because of this situtation. MAYBE YOU DO!

  Mouthy, thanks for your reply....the clutter was almost unbearable to look at and I guess I need to mind my own business. One bedroom was loaded with black plastic bags stuffed and stacked almost to the ceiling.

  The small hallway is almost impossible to pass and the one bathroom was loaded with black mold.

  I am just shocked. I do not want to call anyone on her because she has been such a nice sweet neighbor and her husband and daughters have been too.

  It is just so shocking!

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  What would you do? everyones input please!

  by restrangled in

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  i have a great neighbor who has always looked out for us and sent over very expensive pet food at no cost because she is in the business.. she has been a great neighbor all around for many years.

  her daughter and my son are very good friends.. just this week she asked my son to take care of her pets.

  he went surfing today and asked me to cover.. when i went over i was so alarmed, and came back so depressed i do not know what to do.. it is an 800 square foot house with 2 dogs, must be 8 fish tanks full of turtles, a cat,and a parrot sitting in a dusty cage in the dark.

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  I have a great neighbor who has always looked out for us and sent over very expensive pet food at no cost because she is in the business.

  She has been a great neighbor all around for many years. Her daughter and my son are very good friends.

  Just this week she asked my son to take care of her pets. He went surfing today and asked me to cover.

  When I went over I was so alarmed, and came back so depressed I do not know what to do.

  It is an 800 square foot house with 2 dogs, must be 8 fish tanks full of turtles, a cat,and a parrot sitting in a dusty cage in the dark. The counter tops in the kitchen were not visable, there must have been a stack of mail at least a foot tall and 2 feet wide. There were cages, for the dogs. I could not find the cat or the litter box. The back yard was clean except for 2 huge turtles, and I mean huge, (thought they were big rocks at first), she just sold 2 turtles for $1000.00 a piece which my husband had to lift into a truck. I guess I am alarmed a family could live this way. Both my husband and boys say its none of my business.

  Maybe they are right, I just was extremely depressed after I got out of there. I can't imagine how the pets feel.

  Sorry, Just need to talk about this.

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  Shunning mom is floored by UN scandal..first she's heard of it.

  by restrangled in

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  due to my husbands interactions with my mom with questions about the history of the wbts, i received a phone call from her.

  (keep in mind she is 72 years a witness).

  i brought up the un thing and she said, thats from apostates.

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  I received a phone call from her today defneding the UN foolishness. It was usefull for defending the Jw's in a foriegn country just like Paul. He was arrested and they called upon Ceaser......ie same thing.

  The UN is not tied into or supporting religion so this absolutely ok, ,,,,the YMCA supports a religion so of course thiis is very different. The witnesses have never supported anything supported by false religion.

  This my friends was my phone call today. I am unbelievably, angry, sad, and sorry I spent any time trying to be logical with this person.

  I am depressed and tired beyond belief. Thanks for listening, I just want to fade away and never hear of any of their crap again.

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  PICTURES EVERYONE WILL ENJOY VIEWING

  by juni in

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  here is the link:.

  http://home.att.net/~hideaway_fun/442/planet.htm.

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  Breath taking photos, thanks.......

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