Posts by digderidoo

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BRITS v YANKS

by nicolaou in

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brits v yanks.

this is just for laughs, but let's be honest us brits are most definately ahead of our 'cousins' across the water in the credibility stakes.. i'll kick us off and see where we go;.

[1] the beautiful game.. it's called football.

BRITS v YANKS

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

brits v yanks.

this is just for laughs, but let's be honest us brits are most definately ahead of our 'cousins' across the water in the credibility stakes.. i'll kick us off and see where we go;.

[1] the beautiful game.. it's called football.

digderidoo

This site!!!

Administered from this side of the pond....u yanks have alot to thank us for!

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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BRITS v YANKS

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

brits v yanks.

this is just for laughs, but let's be honest us brits are most definately ahead of our 'cousins' across the water in the credibility stakes.. i'll kick us off and see where we go;.

[1] the beautiful game.. it's called football.

digderidoo

GREAT Britain....the name says it all!

UK 2 USA 0

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Self Hypnosis

by TR in

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friends

just wondering if any here have tried this, and what were your results.

or, does it offend your religious and/or spiritual senses?.

tr

digderidoo

Thanks kristen

it was something i heard a while back...i try to live by it.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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I cryed today...

by silentlambs in

i recieved this note from a young person i know personally.

it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.

why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.

digderidoo

Wayne
Your comments anger me.

You say
'As a student of psychology,i can affirm that the incidence of true child molestation is extremely low amongst Jehovahs Witnesses.'

The official statistics would be low if these incidences are not reported by judicial committees to the relevent authorities. You as a psychology student should know how statistics can be manipulated!

You say 'nor is the WTS to blame unless the WTS itself was notified of the accusation'

The WTS is to blame...it is their policy that is given to the elders of these judicial committees..think about it, why do the body of elders all have the same line of thinking in this matter.

'not all poedophiles are child molesters'

What crap!

'it is true that the mere men who take the lead in these organisations are prone to human error'

It is not human error on the elders part, it is an error, the policy of not going to the authorities, to report a peodaphile...just because he has 'repented'.

You don't seem to understand that this policy, merely protects the molesters.

25

it just got more interesting.

by Texasbred in

jw
friends

the woman i am dating has a 4 year old child.

he's a cute kid, and we get along very well.. the father was once a jw and he went to the same kingdom hall as my girlfriend.

but now he's out and celebrates holidays, birthdays, etc.

digderidoo

Texas
I feel to try to get your girlfriend to your family christmas...is not to go along the lines of it's christs birth, which transcends pagan rituals.

Just explain to her the importance that it has to you.

If after this she does not want to celebrate, respect that decision. You are asking her to give up something that she has grown up with. The fact that she is going, but not opening presents is a big step on her part. My personal opinion - you should meet her halfway.

Have you asked her, if you can go to her meeting?...May be she doesn't want you to go as this relationship is taboo to other witnesses.

May be i'm coming from an x witness stance on this, i could be right...i could be wrong. U obviously have love for each other, i hope it all goes well for you.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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Self Hypnosis

by TR in

jw
friends

just wondering if any here have tried this, and what were your results.

or, does it offend your religious and/or spiritual senses?.

tr

digderidoo

TR
I have never tried self hypnosis...but i have been hypnotised, i didn't realise it was happening at the time.

To put you in the picture...
I used to work in mental health, while i was at university. We had a workshop...the person giving the lecture worked as a psychotherapist.
He had the group of us (around 15) to close our eyes, while he ran through some emotions.
We must have sat there for 15 to 20 mins, with our eyes closed, totally silent, just listening to his voice. He got us to go through certain emotions...for example how we felt when someone we loved rejected us...or how we felt when someone was besotted with ourselves, yet we wanted to end that relationship.
He went through hurt, pain, happiness, lovingness, lonliness...a range of emotions in this manner.
I felt so relaxed.
All i could hear was his voice...and experience these emotions.
It wasn't until the end...when he said 'wide awake!'...that it suddenly dawned on me that i had been hypnotised.
I wanted to go back there again!
It was a wonderful feeling...a truly unique experience.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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1975 - After 26 years isn't it time to move on?

by digderidoo in

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i'm relatively new on this site...but one subject i've noticed that seems to create alot of interest is that of 1975.. our family became witnesses it 1983 so i wasn't around at the time.

forgive me if i do not understand why many were so angry with the wts at the time.. i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves.

i can see how witnesses got angry over that.. but, what i do not understand is why many still research into what the society said, or didn't say, or insinuated.

digderidoo

Some good comments have come from this thread. I must say they have influenced my opinion (which is often difficult).

I take the points that many had there education influenced by this...It is something i can relate to.

I was baptised at 15 (in 1985)...the belief was, that armaggeddon was just around the corner. So i auxiliary pioneered in my holidays...then began to regular pioneer when i left school. All because we were told it was pointless getting an education. By the time my first child came along at the age of 23 all i could do was clean windows.

The society has alot to answer for.

Jt
You ask, 'do you think that their mistakes disqualify them as being the mouthpc of God as they claim?'
I cannot answer your question, for the simple fact that i do not believe in God at all...or at least the bibles perception of God. I think that their mistakes disqualify them from saying they have 'the truth'...however a mouthpc of God, I cannot answer if i do not believe in him.
I take your point that little research is needed when you have the internet.
As for spoiling education oppurtunities...i can relate to that as i previously mentioned.
You ask my current status...
I have left the org for about 6 or 7 years now...i have never been disfellowshipped. I have thought of disassociating myself...but i do not want to play that game...if they want to disfellowship me they can, tho now i think i'm viewed as no threat, so they do not bother. However, i am not a jw.

Thirdson
Take your point about lack of education...as previously mentioned.
You mention the generation of 1914...that was what made me pioneer...the thought that this generation were into their 70's at the time.
I understand how that year of 1975 had 'a major impact on our lives'.

Tina
You mention you 'take issue with the comment didn't take responsibility for themselves'....i made this comment regarding the WTS, that they 'blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves'. Sorry for the confusion.

Sassenach
You make the comment that ask a JW about it and they denie it as no big deal. That is what i would have said before reading these comments.

JT
You respond to tina quite well in my defence...however what was quoted about people taking responsibility for themselves was not meant as that, as you can see from my reply to tina. I said..'i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves'...not 'for themselves' as tina thought.

Patio34
Take the point that it has robbed the best years of peoples lives.

Mommy
I guess i feel the same when it comes to having the patience to research this. Especially when it didn't affect me.

LoveDubs
The WTS is not 'my innocent society'....i have many issues with the society, as much as anyone else on this site.

Alan F
Thanks for your response...i was interested to see whether you'd respond to this thread. It was because of one of your posts on 1975 that made me wonder why you were doing this research.
I take your point that many lives were ruined because of the 1975 issue.
After reading a bit about your experiences i can see why this issue is an important one for you.
I get the feeling from your last comments that you feel that i may still be a witness. Let me assure you that i am not.

Bigboi
I can see from reading these posts how it has affected many people who were around that year.

I guess when i first poised the question...i felt that those who researched 1975 were only doing this because of anti-jw sentiments. I now realise that many were affected and had their years robbed...just as i did, at a later date.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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Tonight's memorial - did you go?

by dmouse in

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my wife has just left for the memorial.. just before she went she asked me to come...this was the second year in a row that i declined.

i hated seeing her so sad, i almost agreed to go just to cheer her up but that would betray her in a very real sense.

to go to the memorial would be an admission in her eyes (and other jws) that i still believe deep down that it is the truth.

digderidoo

It's good to read these posts the day after the memorial.

I didn't go last night, thought about it though. My mom seemed gutted when i told her on Saturday that i wasn't going.

Last year was the first memorial i didn't go to, this year seemed much different though. It was as though last year i finally made a stance, as if i was saying that i no longer wanted to be a part of this org. This year tho i didn't have that statement to make, as it was already made last year. This year i didn't go just because...no real reason.

So i went out with a lifelong friend, also an x witness...it was his first memorial he missed. We went to a bar in the city and just chilled out. At around 9.15-9.20 though we began to wonder...is the bread or wine being passed around now?(the meeting had started at 8.45). It was weird.

I,m glad i didn't go.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.

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1975 - After 26 years isn't it time to move on?

by digderidoo in

jw
friends

i'm relatively new on this site...but one subject i've noticed that seems to create alot of interest is that of 1975.. our family became witnesses it 1983 so i wasn't around at the time.

forgive me if i do not understand why many were so angry with the wts at the time.. i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves.

i can see how witnesses got angry over that.. but, what i do not understand is why many still research into what the society said, or didn't say, or insinuated.

digderidoo

I take the points of these comments. Yes, i know we have to look at the history, we have to research and find out the honest answers, we have to remember the past.

But my point is, do we have to live in the past? From posts that i have read it seems that many do intense research, to prove the WTS wrong.

All i seem to see, is a regurgatation of the same old stuff. That being that yes the WTS did influence witnesses, yet denies this after 1975.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that, is it worth continuing with indepth research to try to find that one paragraph, where the WTS says clearly 'Armaggeddon will happen in 1975'?

Accept yes, the WTS has made big mistakes, still do, but for me, to carry on researh in this area is only to live in the past and not move on to more positive aspects of my life.

May be i feel this way because i wasn't around at the time, i don't know.

Yours dig

Try to add life to your days, not days to your life.