OTWO you cannot say that it was Paul who was the homophobic so therefore it's not so relevent, then later to quote from 1 Cor to back up your point. Either it's one or the other.
Paul
digderidoo
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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digderidoo
So therefore FHNow you seem to be saying that it's a sin, but because we're all sinners that's okay?
Paul
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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digderidoo
You said you didn't have an agenda but your statement provides a very narrow definition of Christian.
I don't have an agenda because i am not a christian, nor anti-gay like some here. Maybe it's the JW upbringing that everything has to be accepted in the bible, which means i do have a narrow definition of Christian and i take that on board. The definition of being a christian to me, i thought would have been to accept everything that's written in scripture and not just to discard what doesn't agree with your viewpoint.
Paul
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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digderidoo
I know quite a number of gay Chrisitans. Everyone of them is a fine person
I am not disputing the love or kindness found amongst any christian, this really detracts from what i am asking. I just cannot see how the two can sit side by side.
Paul
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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digderidoo
I believe the answer is yes.
We are all called to receive a divine gift, to become children of God, which is a gift given by God's grace. However in order to receive this gift we must reject sin. Sin includes homosexual behavior. That said, homosexual desires are not sin in and of themselves. As fallen creatures we are subject to many different sinful desires. We have little control over this aspect of our nature. It is what we choose to do regarding these desires that is sinful or not. If we act out or encourage our sinful desires then we are committing sin.
So your therefore saying BTS that it's okay to be gay as long as you don't act upon it? I can't see how someone who is gay can live a christian life like that. If that's the way you are then why should it be wrong to act upon it. I think God would be a cruel god to create this aspect to some people's nature and then not allow them to act upon it.
I guess gay Christians just ignore or reinterpret the few scriptures that appear to discriminate against them.
I don't think this should be an option for any christian, gay or heterosexual. Either you accept scripture in it's entirety or you don't. How can some scripture be divine and others not?
Paul
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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?
by digderidoo ini have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.
there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?
if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.
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digderidoo
I have looked at the thread about gay marriages in California and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here. There seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as Christian? If so, can being gay live in harmony with being a Christian?
I am sure that many have been in a turmoil realising they were gay and being a JW, but in or out of the WBTS the bible does say that a man should not lie with a man. So how is this reconciled by Christians who are gay?
I would be quite interested to hear viewpoints on this as i have often wondered how the two can live together when i have come across gay christians.
Could i also say that i am not coming from an anti-gay point of view on this, nor a Christian point of view. I am just curious how the two sit together.
Paul
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Did you have any ''dirty creepy old men'' in your congro?
by karter inwe had one always had his hands on the sisters and would stare at there brests all the time .
any new sisters were ''new meat'' lost count off the times he was told off by the elders
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digderidoo
Yes we had a couple. One who was a keen photographer of teen girls, got them posing to make them look older, he would always home in on the teen girls. Never wanted to take photos of men though. Another who puts his arm around the sisters and gives them friendly kisses, he's a married elder, my mom had to get an elder to have a word with him.
Why is it? Is it just the normal cross section of society or does the WBTS attract people like this? Or maybe the rules mean they are sexually frustrated. The one thing that gets to me is that they are not dealt with because they haven't crossed the disfellowshipping line.
Paul
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Communicating With The Dead
by choosing life ini studied in the "truth" book back in the 70's.
when we were talking about why it was wrong to communicate with the dead, the study conductor said it was because they were really demons posing as dead persons.
he also said that it would be mean on god's part if the dead were really still alive and god refused any communication with them.
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digderidoo
I can't remember that one, just that it was the demons acting as dead people.
Paul
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Communicating With The Dead
by choosing life ini studied in the "truth" book back in the 70's.
when we were talking about why it was wrong to communicate with the dead, the study conductor said it was because they were really demons posing as dead persons.
he also said that it would be mean on god's part if the dead were really still alive and god refused any communication with them.
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digderidoo
I remember this teaching, as i have dabbled with ouija boards when i was a kid. It really took the shine off the event.
Paul
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digderidoo
Complete snob...I look down on all of you low life
Paul