See you in a month or two
Paul
startfragment.
after thinking things over i have realized that the time has now come for me to say goodbye to jwd.. some personal reminiscing about all of the people i have enjoyed talking with on jwd reminds me why it is time to go.
simply speaking, most of my good friends are no longer here.
See you in a month or two
Paul
in my congregation we have many urban legands, like the one about the smurf doll jumping out of a girls lap and running out of the kh because it couldn't stand to hear the good news.
we also had one where a sister was out in fs and a dog talked, it told a sister not to knock on this one door, the sister went to the house and knocked anyway, and the doors and windows of the house flew open and dishes flew out, the sister was scared and ran away and the dog yelled at her retreating back "i told you not to got here!
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Is there a scriptural reason why JW's say a demon can possess a second hand piece of furniture?
i really thought the us was going to do it but they got knocked out.. apparently, the same team (ghana) as last time - don't feel bad ... germany normally knock us out (probably tomorrow)..
I would have liked to see the USA get to the semi's, i think they were in for a great chance for it.
Paul
considering the fact we've had so many newbies here i thought it would be good to just open it up to you folks to see how life is going for you since you exited the witnesses ?
it's hard many times to move on- however with lots of ex-witnesses on the board here who have been through similar experiences - perhaps those of us who have been out awhile can give you someideas on how to move on in your post jw life to make it a little easier .
so fire away newbies and recently exited jw 's.
A good thread Flipper, thanks. It's good to read these experiences and reminds me of how i was when i first left. Most of all the response is encouraging and for those who are still suffering because of their JW past, the support is here....nobody understands an ex jw like an ex jw.
Paul
so as not to hijack another thread i decided that a thread on culture could be useful.
i'd like to provide a safe place for people to talk about cultural norms or abnormals.
you don't want to learn that you've done or said the wrong thing by gettin' a fist in the face, know what i'm saying?.
Thinking about it Serenity, she had extensions, so the feel of the hair just wouldn't have been the same lol.
Paul
so as not to hijack another thread i decided that a thread on culture could be useful.
i'd like to provide a safe place for people to talk about cultural norms or abnormals.
you don't want to learn that you've done or said the wrong thing by gettin' a fist in the face, know what i'm saying?.
My last girlfriend was black and thinking about it she hated me touching her hair!
Paul
what qualities would you say they share w/ other high control groups?.
Look at the first sentence on the Orange Papers website.... "One man's analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous.". This guy is entitled to his opinion, but it's only one man's opinion. Personally i've never heard of women being raped or abused in AA and i wouldn't imagine for a minute that anybody abused would be silenced. I have heard of some guys who are refered to as "13th steppers", basically guys who ask newcomer women out, but not abuse.
When i first came to AA i was very hesitant to attend meetings due to my JW past. I debated the AA program through and through, i left AA twice due to this line of thinking. When i left nobody contacted me to rejoin, it was left up to me, that was the big difference. AA is about attraction, rather than promotion, if you want it it's there, if you don't then don't go, it's as simple as that. I can honestly say that AA is nothing like the cult that JW's are. I can see how some groups exhibit cultish characteristics and if some believe it to be a cult i couldn't really care, it's kept me sober.
Seven years ago i was a helpless, homeless drug taking alcoholic who would steal food as any money i had went on booze. Today i'm a sober, recovering alcoholic, half way through a law degree, have a nice home, job, have joint custody of my two boys, have my daughter living with me and most of all have a peace of mind after having come to terms with all of my past issues.....and all that i put down to AA and the 12 step program.
If this Orange Papers guy and others believe it to be a cult then so be it, i don't believe it to be a cult and most of all it works for this alcoholic.
Paul
i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.
i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.
i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.
Playing an arcade game 1942.
Talking at night in a tent, whilst camping for a district convention....think it was about 10pm.
Going for a drink with a couple of friends on the night of the same convention on the campsite bar.
Watching the tv program V
Watching the A team
Watching Grange Hill
Only being an auxilery pioneer when i should have been a regular.
Wearing an England top at pre convention work, told it was idolatry
i got the jw "bug" as a teenager.
witnesses called at our door when i was nearly 11. my parents are deaf and i was the oldest hearing child, the default interpreter for them in that era before relay services and professional interpreters.
they had no interest in jws, but it started to spark an interest in me.
Thanks for that Cabasillas. I can relate so much to your story, i also remember sitting with a career advisor at the age of 15 explaining how i wanted to pioneer and be a part time window cleaner. My teacher was encouraging me to stay on in school, but he knew deep down he was fighting a losing battle.
25 years later I'm now part way through a law degree, it's so fulfilling. I wish i'd have done it all those years back but sometimes that's not how life pans out, it's the future that we can control, not the past.
Paul
while the watchtower leaders smugly bury their glorious leaders and eulogise about their dedication to jehovah i.e.
watchtower publishing company , their brothers and sisters of the lower order in the uk are begging for charitable donations through the jah jireh care home home site.. it seems as if some of the millions who will never die are now doing just that and are in need of urgent help because armageddon or cloud cuckoo land as it is known to the sane, refuses to show up.. maybe the past w/t presidents who have reached their sell by dates residing in the heavenly realm can speed things up a little.. if you would like to make a donation go to the jah jireh website and check out the latest news..
I remember an elderly sister going into one of these homes up North somewhere back inthe 80's, reckons she loved it. It was many years ago and i'm guessing it's probably the same people.