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I've been studying JW for 6 months. Please help..

by fb130 in

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i'm still trying 2 figure out if this is a pro or anti jw forum but here goes..

i started studying jw 6 months ago & i do feel i'm growing.

i think at the rate things are going i'll b babtised in another 6 months.

nameless_one

Hi and welcome, fb130. You will find quite a mix of people here, the common thread being that all have been impacted by the WTS in some way.

Regarding the UN-NGO issue, there's a lot of good info offered on this thread already. You might also want to check out the JWFacts site at http://www.jwfacts.com -- there is a ton of straightforward and well presented information there, covering many JW topics. The specific page on the UN issue is at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/un.htm.

Another site that might be of help to you is http://www.freeminds.org. And of course this forum; there's much to be learned here, and many people who are happy to share their experiences and their knowledge. Poke around, read what's here, ask any questions you have, and you will learn much, guaranteed.

Please don't get baptized before you have researched things thoroughly; not just the UN issue, but the WTS and JWs in general. It is critical that you investigate what you've been told (and not been told) by consulting a wide variety of sources, not just the Watchtower Society's own literature. If you take only one thing from your thread here, make it be that: Don't consider baptism until you have conducted your own thorough, independent research.

Again, welcome to the forum

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feel like I've walked into a tar pit

by lancelink in

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around three years ago my wife started to invite the mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.

this went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week.

i would work late because i wanted .

nameless_one

Wow, that is crazy! Talk about a double whammy. The reaction of the elders seems really bizarre, do they understand that she is the study here who is learning Mormonism, or do they mistakenly think the Mormons are the studies and that your JW wife is teaching them JWism? Either way, what a bizarre and terrible situation.

I don't have any advice, just wanted to say that I really feel for you. One cult is bad enough, but to have to deal with two, yikes :-(

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New here

by Dubslayer in

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just want to say "hello".

nameless_one

Hello and welcome

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Our SAVIOUR has arrived....and every EYE is upon Him

by journey-on in

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the mass media kills me.

they make you see and hear what they.

want you to see and hear.

nameless_one

Yikes!

Note to self: Avoid stirring the wrath of Greensleeves.

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Christian the Lion....

by Quirky1 in

i don't know how true this is but it is interesting..... http://youtube.com/watch?v=adybfqfxg0u&feature=related .

nameless_one

jamiebowers, thank you!

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Steve Gordon - A Dark Tale

by Farkel in

steve gordon a dark tale.

newly baptized jw steve gordon has just dried off and changed back into his cheap watchtower suit.

he sits down in the hot stadium heat and rubs his smooth, shaven face and closely cropped hair.

nameless_one

At the risk of being called out as stupid or lacking perception, I'll share what I got out of this story:

"There must be something I am doing wrong," he thought.

I think Steve did everything wrong every step of the way, and this thought was the one thing he was right about *shrugs and slinks away*

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The Time 777-9311 (What's your phone number?)

by MsMcDucket in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfhq0t_hvrq&feature=related.

page 7777 got me to thinking about this song.

nameless_one

LOL! Posting just to bring this back to 7777

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August 1980 Kingdom Ministry about Apostasy & Franz resignation

by cabasilas in

i was sorting some papers tonight and came across a copy of the august 1980 km which announced the "apostasy against the organization" (a letter from the governing body) and has the notification that raymond franz was no longer a member of the governing body and bethel family.

i remember reading this just as i was making plans to disassociate myself at the same time.

this copy of the km was in some papers that belonged to my mother-in-law (who passed away several years ago).

nameless_one

Thanks for this, cabasilas. Interesting how they buried and downplayed the "news" as if it were the most mundane of matters; I suspect many or most didn't note or register its significance at all.

And also, on a side note, the graphical layout of this is ridiculous! I have never seen such a jumbled, awkward mess of broken text. It has no logical flow at all and is very convoluted and hard to follow (no surprise there I suppose, LOL).

Thanks again for scanning and sharing this, nice find :-)

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comments on Sherri Shepard from the view on her countless abortions....

by orbison11 in

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oh my, this gal is an x jw,,now on the view,,,.

,now a born again.

her son lives with the dad in california, and she flies out for the weekend to see him.

nameless_one

Honestly, I have no idea who this person is.

Same here, I'd never heard of this person before I read this thread. I still wish I'd never heard of her

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Feeling Vulnerable

by megs in

okay... help... i'm feeling weak right now... i haven't spoken to my dub in 6 weeks, still not over him, still thinking about him far more than i should... anyway... when we were talking, he got me going to meetings (we live in diff places) and a nice pioneer lady took me under her wing.

i gave his email addy to the lady and they correspond.

so, me and the dub had a falling out when i told him all of the issues i had with the wts.

nameless_one

Hi, megs. There is lots of good advice in this thread. I think, as others have suggested, that you might be wanting to open things up again with this pioneer because she represents a tenuous link to your friend. I hope you won't do that; you know in your heart that this lady has an ulterior agenda, and that it is really counter to your welfare and your best interests. If it feels too harsh or rude to you to just stop reading her emails cold, maybe send her a short message thanking her for her concern but clearly letting her know that contact won't be continuing. THEN stop reading her emails :-)

As for your friend himself, I wonder if you are equating your response or non-response to this pioneer with your fear of cutting off all hopes for the future with your friend. They are not the same thing! JWs pursuing studies tend to have the most success when preying on weakness and despair, and you really don't want to fall back into this mess because of a patch of vulnerability that will pass in time. Please don't compromise your life and your beliefs and your future for the hope of what might or might not happen with your friend down the road -- plunging yourself into the darkness won't turn on a light for him, it will just blacken your world too. If he ever starts to wake up and open his mind to the idea of respecting and accepting you for the good and lovely non-JW person you are, well that will be a beautiful thing and you have certainly left the door open for him to do that. But HE has to do it and see it himself, you can't do it for him. It's OK to hope that he will wake up, just don't sacrifice your own life on the gamble.

Maybe in the next days and weeks you can make a special point of spending fun times with friends, doing things you enjoy, experiencing and noting the millions of big and little things that make a free and happy life worth holding on to. I know it hurts now, and I understand the vulnerability and the despair, but you've come such a long way from where you started and giving that up would be a terrible shame. Hold strong :-)

nameless_one

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