seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
When the Muslims get copyright on the name 'Muhammad' they can bitch then.
As for what to do- well no more political correctness gone mad. What they did is offensive to me, and there's nothing wrong in saying so. I'm not even calling for their deaths! Just goes to show what happens to a country when church/mosque and state come together as one.
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
Yeah, we do have it good in the UK. I'm thankful for that. I'd like it to stay that way. If we took a back seat and said nothing, there are plenty of things that would come to pass. Right now there are Christians here who want Jerry Springer the Opera banned, creationism taught in UK schools and the Catholic church was going on about shutting down their adoption agency if homosexuals were given equal rights- not sure what actually happened with that. That's just a few things off the top of my head. It's not every Christian no, but as I've said in the Dissing Islam thread, the moderates just get in the way. It's like the JWs - and one example - they're not ALL pedophiles, but their beliefs mean that those who ARE pedophiles manage to get away with it a lot of the time. Even though there are many nice JWs, that doesn't stop us saying that the religion is dangerous. They don't force people at the doors, but they DO force their children to go along with it. Who else is going to be their voice?
But I'm against forcing, on both sides. If humans move away from religion, it shouldn't be forced. If nothing much changes, then at least I'll have had my say if things go bad. I'll know I tried.
another pat condell one here-.
http://media.libsyn.com/media/patcondell/029_-_why_debate_dogma.mp3.
i tend to go between debates and ridicule depending on my mood, but i think there's room for all kinds of approaches..
Another Pat Condell one here-
http://media.libsyn.com/media/patcondell/029_-_Why_debate_dogma.mp3
I tend to go between debates and ridicule depending on my mood, but I think there's room for all kinds of approaches.
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
Zico, if I change the name of the god in question, you'll probably see what I mean.
Let's say everyone believed in Horus. Parents taught their kids to believe in Horus before they could think for themselves, leaders of the world prayed to Horus for political guidance, Horus believers held back science and discriminated against certain groups. Perhaps you'd want to say something then, at the very least to try and get humanity to stop believing in a mythical god.
Being an atheist says nothing about what I do believe.
I also used inverted commas around 'share', because very often religious parents indoctrinate children and act as if other faiths (or atheists) don't have a say. Like the Golden Compass idiocy - preaching, bullying and trying to boycott something they don't agree with, and trying to get others to go along with them. I limit my criticism to words on a computer screen. You won't have seen any atheists trying to boycott Chronicles of Narnia or Passion of the Christ. Our sharing of views came to commenting on the films, not mass email alerts and time devoted to us on the news channels. Let's just say they're a lot more forceful in their 'sharing'.
seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
The marches of the Countryside Alliance here were large but didn't reflect the attitudes of anyone I knew, but then again, I'm not a toff.
There were plenty of anti-fox hunting protests too. Has anyone heard of any moderate Muslims protesting that the teacher should be set free and that the extremist ones are giving them a bad name? So far I'm only seeing a few public statements from leaders saying it's bad - and then not actually stopping it with the powers they have. If they could, I dunno..
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
LT, who said anything about stopping people being religious?
And if they kept it to themselves I would have less of a problem with it. Unfortunately, they feel they have to 'share' it.
We get to debate these things here, but even online there are always those who come along complaining that religious beliefs should be left alone. I'm not sure if you assumed I wanted to outlaw religion or something- I don't.
imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
judicial systems, education systems, parental mores and TV/Movie regulatory mechanisms
...can all be criticized and debated openly without people getting their knickers in too much of a twist.
All governments and religions have faults, but all are not the same.
All religions are based on irrational ideas for which there is no proof. That's bad enough.
seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
The BBC reported a couple of hundred people
I have BBC News on the TV now, their interactive service says 'thousands'.
seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
If she hadn't received a punishment, and if thousands of Muslims hadn't taken to the streets AFTER FRIDAY PRAYERS with knives and sticks calling for the teacher to be shot I probably wouldn't have said any of the following-
But does anyone remember an 80s kids show called Superted?
Intro- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urJJSVy4DFQ
It's so similar to the story of Muhammad it's uncanny!
Someone should make a parody of it.
seems a 54 year old british school teacher who is teaching grammer school classes in the sudan has committed a despicable act by blastpheming and showing no respect for the prophet!
can you believe it; she actually allowed the children in her class to name a teddy bear being used in a class project muhammad!!
the sudanise government, carrying out its god given duty is putting her on trial.
The 'moderate muslims' are simply getting in the way. Let's say there's a large group of people who believe in trolls in the woods, and a minority cause problems (like arresting someone who makes fun of a troll). "That's not TRUE troll belief!" cry out the moderates. Yeah, so what? If the ridiculous respected troll belief didn't exist in the first place then there wouldn't be any problems over what was said about trolls. People who thought of offending trolls as an arrestable offense would be seen as the nutters they truly are - not given indirect backing to actually arrest and deport people.
