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i knew i wanted to go to church but which one i really didn't know yet.. two years later, i think i have made up my mind: presbyterian.. anyone have anything they want to share?

With your mother, is it always at the back of your mind that she's without a belief in a god? It seems like it could be a wall between what your relationship could be. Let's not forget there's no reason to think you've found the true creator of the universe where billions of others have failed throughout history. To even assume that could be seen as arrogant.

I'm not sure what you consider the 'older' age to be, but I do think you should give your children more credit than you may be. I knew at a very young age that the JW religion wasn't for me. It was only when I was 'older' I could do something about it without worrying what my parents would be like. I would have done it much earlier, had I had the choice.

Don't the following comments contradict each other?

Whatever decision they make, I hope it is an informed one.

I'm not going to teach them about other faiths.

As their parent, they will look to you for guidance first. Perhaps you should at least let them know there are other beliefs in the world, and show them how they can research them on their own. You wouldn't have to do it for them, but you could help them start their journey. You can also tell them that what you believe is what you believe, not that it is 100% true. Different people have different ideas about what is 'true'. How you explain your beliefs to them could affect how they think. Otherwise they may end up believing what you believe, simply because you are their parent and you had a greater influence on them than you realized.

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Opinion peice on Athiests

by SickofLies in

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friends

there seems to be a lot of hostility on the board toward atheists still and a lot of comments floating around like atheists are to preachy.

well i want to take a quick minute and deal with some of these issues.

to begin with, to make any statement regarding atheists in general would be false for several reasons.

serotonin_wraith

Myelaine,

If you're saying the numbers were from God... proof please.

If you're saying they came from humans... no argument from me. But could you explain what's so impressive about sticking three 6's together?

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Did You Stay In Because of the Fear?

by serotonin_wraith in

growing up amongst jws, i saw the core beliefs as a threat.

be a jw, or die horribly.

but no one i knew ever admitted this, it was all about 'loving jehovah'.

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I think unless someone says it was about the love, this may help us see where the current JWs are at. With it mostly being about the fear. If so, I feel sorry for them. Living a life of constant fear, while trying to give the impression that it's about loving God. Are they all lying to each other?

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Opinion peice on Athiests

by SickofLies in

jw
friends

there seems to be a lot of hostility on the board toward atheists still and a lot of comments floating around like atheists are to preachy.

well i want to take a quick minute and deal with some of these issues.

to begin with, to make any statement regarding atheists in general would be false for several reasons.

serotonin_wraith

Dear myelaine,

You are welcome to say that, but it's a statement backed up with no proof.

Another example- Adam and Eve.

'Historically' it's the Christian view of the first man and woman. It's found in the Bible. It denotes the first humans.

Does that prove the Bible is true, or that people know Adam and Eve are characters in the book? The latter.

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I'm converting again.

by reneeisorym in

2 years ago i left jws.

i went to a baptist church because it was what my husband was.

i knew i wanted to go to church but which one i really didn't know yet.. two years later, i think i have made up my mind: presbyterian.. anyone have anything they want to share?

serotonin_wraith

Renee,

What will your reaction be if they don't believe, and they want out?

Bear in mind that they have to know they can let you know this first. I know as a JW kid I had to pretend I loved it oh so much.

(And, will you be teaching them other beliefs too?)

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I'm converting again.

by reneeisorym in

2 years ago i left jws.

i went to a baptist church because it was what my husband was.

i knew i wanted to go to church but which one i really didn't know yet.. two years later, i think i have made up my mind: presbyterian.. anyone have anything they want to share?

serotonin_wraith

Burn,

If I have children, I will tell them about all kinds of religious beliefs. I will let them decide what to believe, if anything. If I force my kids to be atheist, I will be no better than the parents who indoctrinate their kids with religion.

Unfortunately Atheists don't seem to procreate very well. The more secular/atheist a country is, the lower the birth rate is. I do believe Britain and W Europe are in the early stages of a rather steep demographic decline.

I don't know anything about that. Any chance of some evidence?

Atheism appears to be an evolutionary dead end

It's a lack of belief, not a gene that's not getting passed on. I was raised a Christian, yet turned out to be atheist. Go figure. I don't want to indoctrinate Renee's kids, I want EVERY kid to be given the opportunity to explore everything for themselves and make their own decisions. Not have those decisions influenced by what the parents believe, as happens in many religious families.

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Did You Stay In Because of the Fear?

by serotonin_wraith in

growing up amongst jws, i saw the core beliefs as a threat.

be a jw, or die horribly.

but no one i knew ever admitted this, it was all about 'loving jehovah'.

serotonin_wraith

Restrangled, you have me thinking now. I think for me it was fear of parents, then God. Before I actually looked into this whole 'God' business myself. Maybe I should direct this more at those who were adults while in - was everyone lying about it being loving God, or was anyone actually being genuine when they said that?

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