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  Hot topic in congregations: having a beard/goatee

  by nevaagain in

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  i am starting this topic because i was wondering, i see many who leave "the truth" are glad because they can finally have a beard.

  is having a beard really a no go in congregations?

  how is / was it in your congregation?.

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  done4good

  Like anything else, if they want to use it against you they will. This one just happens to have a higher probability of that happening than some other things, because of its "high visibility"...superficial shit at its finest, and typical WT.
  

  Just an anecdote:
  

  I remember back in 2002 we did a reno of our hall without the RBC, and it took about a month. There were no meetings during that month, other than the abbreviated WT studies. All of the elders, MS, etc. that could grow a beard or goatee did during that month.

  I also traveled a lot for work for several years, and often grew a beard when away. I kept it a few times, and always received compliments in the hall for it...especially from the ladies.
  

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  Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

  by Simon in

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  i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

  he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

  many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

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  I am not politically a proponent of the death penalty. That said, the all or nothing ideological viewpoints held in political circles, (yes, even my own), do not fit this case.

  Torture is far worse than death, and I will never support that. He deserves the worst possible punishment, short of inflicting a lifetime of torture. Solitary confinement is torture. If someone is seriously being considered for this type of punishment, they have exceeded the threshold of what I would consider an allowable case for the death penalty. The death penalty is the only logical solution.
  

  Society has no use for sub-human homo sapiens such as Tsarnaev.

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  Does this make me a terrible person

  by Clambake in

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  my wife has a friend at her kh.

  she is 37 and her friend is 88. i know it sounds kind of strange but they are both the wives of ubm so they kind of stick together.

  my wife is very sincere in this friendship and this lady is a nice person.

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  Your wife is a gem. As The Searcher stated, don't hurt her.

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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

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  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  done4good

  Born-ins and converts are fundamentally different.

  A child who is forced to accept what their parent(s) believe is never going to look at that information the same way as an adult who identifies with that information for one reason or another, and makes the life changes required to live up to that identity. It is just not possible.

  Those differences take different forms throughout a person's life, which I believe even includes differences after a person leaves. A convert probably has a much easier time adjusting to becoming a real person again, not necessarily so with a born-in.

  Apathy does tend to run stronger in born-ins overall. They didn't ask for the miserable existence their parents forced on them, but they are stuck. So apathy becomes the order of the day. This should be no surprise.

  Being a born-in sucks. I was lucky I had help in certain areas by other born-ins who were intelligent enough to know when to ignore the WT's counsel, and get an education, career, etc. Many others don't fare that well. Converts know absolutely nothing of that life.

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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

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  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  No clean way. Some are more of a "soft landing" than others, (such as Cappytan and _Morpheus mention), but all of those methods involve at least some playing of the game. Thank god I was not an MS at the time I left, as I could not stomach the charade.

  An alternative to that level of charade is to just miss some assignments, stop FS, and miss more meetings than usual. This will draw attention, but not so much along the lines of them suspecting you knowing TTATT. Rather, they will be pressured to remove you, since their own rules require you participate in FS, attendance, and are reliable of handling assignments. Yes, they will try to do everything possible to prevent that, but eventually they will have no choice than to force you to step down. MS/Elders that don't know TTATT do this all the time.

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  Candace Conti Case

  by truthseekeriam in

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  filed:.

  letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

  click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

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  done4good

  They settled over the fact that elders assigned her to work in field service knowing Kendrick was a pedophile.

  
  

  That in of itself is a big deal. It will force change in how the WT conducts its business, if it has not already started in the background. I think much of the recent upheaval of policy, finances, etc. points to the fact that this outcome is shaking things up a bit.

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  Has there been new counsel about Facebook recently?

  by purrpurr in

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  i've noticed increasing amounts of jw's are coming off fb and deactivating completely.

  all with the same reason which they post about at lenght which is that they wwant to focus more on their spiritual life and not have the distraction of fb.. have i missed something or is this just a coincidence?.

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  done4good

  Just another cog in the wheel that is social evolution. WT is ill equipped to deal with it. Too bad, WT...
  

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  What the Governing Body found out when they ' did the math'

  by Esse quam videri in

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  stephen lett may 2015 broadcast.

  14:45 ... the governing body very much feels the urgency of accomplishing as much as we possibly can, in behalf of kingdom interests, knowing that the great day of jehovah is near....

  ... in an effort to inform you of the support that is needed for this great work, i have the following information to share.

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  Splash, nice succinct list of quotes.

  I know I could not have sat through that.
  

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  Interesting RC Experience

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  i recently attended the rc for my area.

  while there, i encountered a old family "friend" who recently lost her jw husband.

  as the interaction proceeds she relates that her grand daughter, who's around my age (early twenties) has "left jehovah".

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  done4good

  Many who leave, don't get an adequate education on not only in WT history/policy but other topics (e.g. science, critical thinking).

  While very much a topic in of itself, learning critical thinking is really about learning a process. Once mastered, all other topics/subjects become much easier to think clearly through. One can fill their head with all of the science they want, but if they did not learn to critically analyze the information first, what is learned can be easily forgotten, and/or replaced with something far less logical. Many well educated people, (at least in the past), still became converts because they never really learned critical thinking to begin with.

  Thankfully, most universities today teach classes in logic and critical thinking, and many majors require it as core classwork.

  Edit: Many anti-science groups, (not just the JWs), are aware of the above and pushing very hard to remove critical thinking from core curriculums at both the high school and university level. I wonder why???
  

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  Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

  by aley63 in

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  i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

  all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

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  done4good

  Vienna - Billy Joel

  The entire American Idiot album by Green Day, (BIG one being played very loudly and often when I left in late 2005).

  God - John Lennon

  Imagine - John Lennon

  Dear God - XTC

  One of Us - Joan Osborne

  Trespass, (the entire album) - Genesis, (early Gabriel era, 1970).

  Jesus, etc. - Wilco

  Drink of Water - Ambrosia

  The Soft Parade - Doors

  In the Light - Led Zeppelin
  

  If I think of more, I will post later.

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