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  They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony

  by leavingonthenextplane in

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  2. bible

  they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.

  the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.

  this talk is all about damage control.. .

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  done4good

  No sane person is going to see this as "persecution". If they pull that card publicly, they will be shamed big time for it.

  I agree with DD and Heaven that links to these videos should be sent to the RC for review.
  

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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  done4good

  I like your no nonsense approach, but once you go public on an ex-JW forum, you may as well DA. Google knows all.

  Its a lose-lose situation. You ultimately have to chose between your freedom, and your own innate desire to please others. That is the way it works once you have been a JW. Sure, there is always some compromise that can be reached, but you will never be just like anyone else who has never been one. There is always something you will have to hide from some JW, at some point, because the organization programs its members to reject anyone who no longer believes, even if only through one's own natural tendencies to succumb to cognitive dissonance. There is no such thing as leaving with dignity, if you are honest about it. That is exactly why I ripped the band-aid off 8 years ago, and DA'd. No way was I going to fake it, no matter how small.

  Make your decision wisely.

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  They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony

  by leavingonthenextplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.

  the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.

  this talk is all about damage control.. .

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  done4good

  Damage control with a healthy dose of fear mongering.
  
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  They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony

  by leavingonthenextplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.

  the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.

  this talk is all about damage control.. .

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  Is it up yet? I cannot bring myself to actually type jw.org into a web browser.
  
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  I sent this to Angus Stewart this morning (Easter Standard Time)

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just sent this email to angus stewart:.

  i hope this email finds you well.

  i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.

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  done4good

  Nice work, Viv!

  This is precisely the kind of thing that can be done in the information age, and has huge implications on speeding the effects of social evolution. Again, great work!

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  Just wrote my DA letter....

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i planned on fading but the elders now want a shepherding call and we are just done.

  i know that many play the game to try to stay in, but i'm not a game player and neither is my wife.

  our families already shun us because we reached out to a disfellowshipped family member.

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  done4good

  While I will state you are not necessarily "playing their game" if you DA, (so congrats!), however make sure this is what you want to do. It will put the exclamation point on your position, and you will have no chance of reaching loved ones still in. I speak from experience 8 years later.

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  Even though I believe in God I still believe Religion is bullshit

  by KateWild in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2ndstue

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  done4good

  God = Highly improbable.

  Religion = 100% bullshit.

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  Watershed moment???

  by sparrowdown in

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  will this rc turn out to be the beginnings of a watershed time in wbts history?.

  do you have any thoughts regarding this?.

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  done4good

  VIdiot - It certainly feels like a game-changer.

  What I will add, is what is very different about how the RC is going about this trial, (as opposed to the civil hearings such as the Conti case), is that the RC is really making an effort to understand both the psychology and sociology involved withing the organization, and its effects on its members, and nailing it. This is perhaps the first time that has taken place. If that trend continues, the domino effect can take place perhaps much faster than anyone expects. First Australia, then the UK, then Canada, (since all are Commonwealth nations). The US would certainly feel that pressure, so this could cause things to change quickly.

  It is difficult to time social evolution, but it happens for sure.

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  Well written, scathing article that summarises first 3 days of RC hearing.

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.

  just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.

  the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.

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  done4good

  Well written, damning, and any intellectually honest JW could read that and know it is the truth, if not blinded by the cognitive dissonance it will cause.

  We need a well summarized, scathing article like that here in the US, from a credible source like the NYT. That will cause more than a few seeds to be planted.
  

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  Watershed moment???

  by sparrowdown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will this rc turn out to be the beginnings of a watershed time in wbts history?.

  do you have any thoughts regarding this?.

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  done4good

  Short term - Not much.

  Long term - You bet.

  d4g