they mean the leadership.
all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.
but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.
Toward the end of the class, there is a "shredding" party that would make Nixon proud. Everyone has to turn in their binders, it is loaded into carts and taken into the Patterson basement, next to a garage, where we gleefully shred every bit of the schedule, and all of the tests. YHWH knows they don't want that crap getting out.
Wow! Talk about blatant duplicity!
have posted this on the other thread but just making this one as well:
i need to let you know that dad passed away this morning at 8am.
he fought so hard but in the end they could not get his blood pressure to rise and he died of heart failure.
I only knew Ian a little bit, but enough to know he was a good man. My condolences. This is awful news. Please know you are in my thoughts.
Jason
just to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
Sorry to hear this. Ian and family are in my thoughts.
j
they mean the leadership.
all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.
but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.
The best post I have read in some time on here! Thank you, ATJ!
j
i love christmas, i don't know if i am going to have a christmas tree this year.
most of my family live in kentucky.. i love decorating the christmas tree.
i have a ten month old cat that gets into everything, eats everything.
Me and Wifey Christmas 2006. j
please do not try it - the balance of the thread will explain.
i am locking this thread and letting it fade away, but those who read it should see that there are some problems by some that i did not experience before i posted the thread.
i have notified admin to address the email/identity issues.
Damn! I was realllly going to try to wean myself away from the xjw forums. It looks like I'm in for good, now.
my awakening was gradual, but first took place upon arriving at gilead school... see details in this video.... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgj5dztbleq.
i've addressed some of the concerns and feedback from my first video... no more star wars lettering, lol....
Great work, Lance!
j
i've been giving this a lot of thought.
i'm thinking that, as a born-in, i was raised thinking that everybody who wasn't a dub was stupid and i had to go door-to-door to enlighten them.
and that the ones who were so stupid and stubborn as to not respond to my message (which was all of them, lol!
Jeremy, I've tried to discuss this with my Dad but he doesn't "get it." I'm one of six children. Three of my siblings are Dubs, three of us are out. My dad is not a Dub, except by association with my mother, which affects his mindset considerably. Anyway, he can't understand why his children don't come around him and visit him and have a strong sense of family. I've tried to explain to him that, being raised as Dubs, we had to try to distance ourselves from him emotionally because he was not a Dub and was going to be destroyed at Armageddon. We were taught to distance ourselves emotionally from all non-Dubs. Even when you're no longer a Dub, it's hard to learn how to embrace and be close to people because, even with the Dubs that you loved and cherished, you were trained to watch them with a suspicious eye and tattle on them if they did anything of which the WTS didn't approve and were taught to be prepared to switch off your heart if the person were, heaven forbid, DF'd. I feel Dubs are trained from birth to keep all good, strong emotions at arm's length. I guess I'm talking about the conditional love. But when you've been taught so well how to love conditionally, it's difficult to train yourself how to act differently.
Ouch!...But so true...
Bastards!
in today's ny times there is an article on this topic, and here are two quotes:.
"bad times are good for evangelical churches.
'its a wonderful time, a great evangelistic opportunity for us,' said the rev.
When people are already "feeling bad", due to poor economic conditions, and other stresses, who wants to sit in the KH and get even beet-up even more?
just curious, what percentage of people here actually left the jw org because of this site or similar sites?
do these sites really help people to get out?
I left on my own, with strong suspicions of the WT. I could not deal with the cognitive dissonance anymore. I came here only after I "knew" I was right about leaving. JWD has been very effective in helping out afterwards.
Thanks Simon!
