richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.
(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.
time: "could the answer be god?
done4good,
You must not be reading the same comments from atheists that I see on other threads (such as by Jonathan, Viviane, etc.
I have read many of Viv's threads and what I can you is she will call you out on a post by post basis. If you say something stupid, you will be called on it. It is not a question of character, it is a matter of pointing out a foolish remark. Truth be told, I just did the same above. Perhaps with a bit less edge, but I was fairly direct just the same.
d4g
richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.
(see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.
time: "could the answer be god?
FusionTheism - This refutes those atheists who say anyone who believes in a Creator is STUPID or an IDIOT.
Really, who says that? Not any atheist I know, (Oh wait, I forgot about Dolt, but I digress).
The above is a straw man. Atheists neither claim, nor believe those that believe in a creator are idiots or stupid. Please stick to real talk points.
We do try to make theists see that facts and reason matter. Pointing out logical fallacies such as the straw man above, (even though it has nothing directly to do with facts concerning if a creator exists or not), is a good way to help someone learn for themselves how to use logic.
d4g
contemplating the watchtowers attempt at washing away 100 years of cult stink, i had another thought.
the wbt$ could be transitioning from a growth model to a retention model, particularly in 1st world nations.
the signs as i see them are:.
Oppostate - All they'll be left is with followers who can't think for themselves and don't live successful lives and are uncomfortably stuck in low paying jobs. These folks may be easier to control, but they require more maintenance, more attention, more commendation, more guiding, more counselling and even more reprimanding, The final outcome may likely be toxic and untenable for the WTS.
It will be untenable. Social evolution is killing them slowly.
last night a young man in a bar struck up a conversation with me.
our town is having our pride parade soon and he brought it up, the bible and how it's against the bible.
me being me, i said that i couldn't care less that it was against the bible and that it was a horrible guide for morality anyway.
Great thread.
If Christians knew the bible they would either stop believing or double down. That is the nature of cognitive dissonance. It is not just for JWs...
Btw, don't ever tell a person under CD that are are experiencing it...It will really piss them off, if they understand what it is!
Viv, I am glad I am with you on this subject...I know I would not want to debate you!
d4g
contemplating the watchtowers attempt at washing away 100 years of cult stink, i had another thought.
the wbt$ could be transitioning from a growth model to a retention model, particularly in 1st world nations.
the signs as i see them are:.
Good OP. I agree with 100% on a high level.
d4g
one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.
i offer no apology.
you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.
You don't know when to quit...
You call names, spread hatred, and again, piss off atheists and theists.
One last time...GET LOST!!!
this may have been posted before.
however, if you want to read the article about jw shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read.
there is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.. http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
Good article. I hope Australia is successful in the removal of tax-exempt status for the WT. This is the type of thing that will cause a domino effect. Not likely to happen in the USA first, (due to a dogged misrepresentation of our constitution by a certain political party), however a more progressive country such as Australia can be successful at getting things started.
d4g
ok so, im wondering if this site and many others can be translated into othe languages, cuz alotta spanish do not know ttatt.
and im concerned.
After the Dolt thread I thought for sure I was getting subtle reminder...
Sorry folks, but the troll needed to be dealt with.
d4g
one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.
i offer no apology.
you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.
One more point...I was spot on, (as was she), with my comment to Sparrowdown. You are here to make trouble, and that is it. She is just a lot nicer about it than I am.
Most people here are ex-JWs, and probably most are ex-Xitans. You have proven you have no reason to be here other than troll so fuck off.
d4g
one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.
i offer no apology.
you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.
