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  Farkel Hits the Bread Line

  by Farkel in

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  i had a very positive experience today which maybe not-so-coincidentally coincided with my recent comments on matthew 25.. it was only my second personal experience with babylon the grape in my entire life.

  my first was when one of my daughters got married in a catholic church over three years ago.

  i actually sat inside the catholic chapel and watched her priest perform the ceremony.

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  Farkle, Dare I say it? Please check your e-mail. Dino
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  JW Decline

  by larc in

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  i found some interesting statistics, some of which you may know, that indicate that the wtbts is in decline.. 1. in the twenty years from 1970 to 1990, the rate of yearly increase dropped from 10% to 6%.

  in the last 10 years it has dropped from 6% to about 2%.

  since the world population growth is about 1.5% they are only growing at about 1/2 of 1% faster than the population.. 2. in 1999, there were 21 large countries that showed a decline.

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  Hey larc and all, RR, I wish I could remember where I saw that the SDA's membership had a precipitous decline from the 8 million you mentioned to somewhere around a few hundred thousand in just the past few years. The factors that path o thorns mentioned in conjunction with the internet is going to cause exactly the same thing. One more thing will as well. When I was service overseer, I was alarmed at the phantom ministry going on. Service was a social outing and for keeping up appearances in the congo. One elder I knew had it down to a science. He would go out in the great laundromat ministry early in the mornings furtively leaving magazines on the counters and never actually witnessing to anyone. Then he and his wife would meet with the group at 9am and then go home afterwards. It is my estimate that at least two-thirds of the brothers in the U.S. engage in a perpetual return visit ministry where the actual door-to-door work is non-extant. The only time even elders actually engage in field ministry is when CO's visit!I am glad to see it because it heralds their demise. Dino
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  More Bethelite Table Crumbs Please!

  by MadApostate in

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  in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.

  obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.

  if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.

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  Hello Jerome and all, I myself have posted a message "to Maximus" wherein I stated "check your e-mail". Let me say that I am truly sorry that my post could construed as clique-ish. My ISP's server is wacko and sometimes I dont know if it is received. Also it is fun to shake the monitors up! My file was urgent. Thanks Eusebius for your rational comments. How the monitors must love our discord. Once again, much love and regrets. A humble nobody, Dino
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  More Bethelite Table Crumbs Please!

  by MadApostate in

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  in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.

  obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.

  if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.

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  Hello Mad and Sam! In the organization there so much blatant hypocrisy with someone always desiring to one up the other guy. Sometimes there is a pecking order as well. No doubt you are disgusted by what you perceive as spilling over into this board. Please allow me to add my two cents about Max, (as if he needed it). I had something so useful to our cause and damaging to the org, but I didnt know how to utilize it. I found Max to be so totally unpretentious and without affectation. He was genuinely helpful and I found that refreshing in view of having dealt with so many DO's that were polar opposites. I know he would be uncomfortable with this, and I hope this doesnt sound gushing, but so help me what I am saying is the truth. Like it or not, Max is one of the elder statesman on this board, and he doesnt deserve this treatment. Max works very hard in the war as so many do here. I personally would much rather hear of his life experiences than just about anything else. Let's give the old guy our respect. And lastly, if you feel left out, why not contact Silentlambs and GET INVOLVED! On the other hand, if (and only if)you are a WT troll trying to foment trouble, then kiss my ass! Really no one is as senstive as you seem to be. Dont take that the wrong way and if you spew insults it wont bother me. Dino P.S. Max, looking forward to that book!
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  Deepening Saddness

  by Amazing in

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  i look back on the 1970s with a sense of loss and nostalgia.

  i was a young man, just married, and so much in love with my beautiful wife.

  i had just started my engineering career, and was debt free.

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  Hello again Amazing. My wife and I both checked out the link on Randy's site, and were struck by some of the similarities in our cases. It took almost five years of surreptitious reasoning to get her to see the truth about "the truth". After that we both stopped attending too suddenly, (which was a blunder) and it sent our boys into shock. I had been used on district level, taught at KM school, and involved in just about every other aspect of that religion. My wife had been a prolific pioneer for ten years. So they couldnt understand it. We found your experience very helpful. Also look forward to reading your daughter's perspective on all this.Once again thanks for the link and your time, and I will e-mail you as time permits. Take care my bro. Dino
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  Deepening Saddness

  by Amazing in

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  i look back on the 1970s with a sense of loss and nostalgia.

  i was a young man, just married, and so much in love with my beautiful wife.

  i had just started my engineering career, and was debt free.

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  Hello Amazing. You and I are about the same age and I have two grown children still in the org. Maybe I did too good of a job teaching them what I thought was the truth at the time. Sometimes I try to gently reason with them on why this religion is a fraud, and they just shut down mentally. So then I have to retreat and let them think that I am a spiritual flake, even though I have forgotten more about this org. and its teachings than they will ever know! I would be intensely interested in how you successfully got your children out.Thanks, and brotherly love, Dino
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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  posted on an email message board:.

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  posted recently to the h2o message board:.

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  Hey Alan! Who loves you baby! I mean that in the most Telly Savalas way! (Im hetero) Just wanted to say thanks for all the efforts on our behalf. Some here dont know of your hard work behind the scenes to bring down the evil empire. May you have peace my friend. Dino
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  ATTN Maximus!!!

  by normie67 in

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  maximus, .

  i would like to start by saying your posts are very informative.

  it speaks volumes of one who has seen things from a different perspective(i.e "inside").

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  MAX IS AWESOME, I love ya man! Dino
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  Confidential Letter from The Watchtower

  by Kent in

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  confidential letter from the watchtower bible & tract society .

  this letter was sent to "all bodies of elders in the united states" juli 1.

  1989. i guess many will find the content extremely interesting!.

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  Sorry MacHislopp, I didnt see your post on the next page. Dino
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  Confidential Letter from The Watchtower

  by Kent in

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  confidential letter from the watchtower bible & tract society .

  this letter was sent to "all bodies of elders in the united states" juli 1.

  1989. i guess many will find the content extremely interesting!.

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  Hello Kent, I had not been to your excellent website for a few weeks. When I went there I was blown away by the NGO-UN link to the WTBS!! Thanks to MacHislopp also for the hard work on the article. This has to be given great publicity! Dino