Posts by WTFBBQPWNT

i always like to come back here and see those who are still in (but faking it, like me), those who are about to be out, and angry, those who are out and angry, and those who are out but sanguine (sp?

anyway.. despite all the undoubted and unargauble arguments about the wbts i just think its funny when y'all talk about the watchtower people being in it for the money...honestly, the bethel people, the elders (i know quite a few in the us and uk bethels), honestly, have you seen, their houses (if they have them), or their cars, or their suits, or their watches, or their shoes?

) even the branch people and the gb, honestly, these guys are not in it for the money, for the security maybe, a distasteful realisation many years ago that they have chosen the wrong path, that maybe they should have gone to university after all, but are stuck working as postmen (or overseers of packaging depts)..

WTFBBQPWNT

It's not the lowly publishers, pioneers, or elders that are in it for the money. Obviously like you said, they live in borderline poverty. It's the Governing Body that are "in it for the money" so to speak. Not the literal cash, but the posh lifestyle they enjoy. Everything they dictate that gives them that level of control that they thrive on....it's done to insure their neat, roomy apartment overlooking Brooklyn. It insures their laundry service, food service, and the free travel that they have access to whenever they decide to make a visit to another country.

Oh yeah, they'll do anything and pass any "law" that it takes to keep that lifestyle secure. If they were to let the real truth be known, WTS would fold and these 80-year old men would be on the street with no income, no possessions, and nowhere to go.

That's why good men like Swingle may have spoken up or voiced disagreement on some issues, but never would have taken it to the point of saying, "Either this changes or I'm out!" They're stuck there. I think Sydlik felt the same way, that's why he would just break down and weep in his prayers. I think he was sincerely disgusted at where the Governing Body found themselves during his final years. But in the end, they were wrong for shutting their eyes and playing along.

Look at what the Governing Body are publishing to the great crowd: MEETING ATTENDANCE (insures your contributions and your headcount can be attributed to their success), FIELD SERVICE (bringing in others so the same can be done with them), SHUNNING DISFELLOWSHIPPED ONES (keeping you from talking to people that can influence you to ultimately take away from the GB's lifestyle). It all screams "CONTROL". Control is the only way they can keep it up.

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Visiting New York Bethel

by JapanBoy in

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my jw kids have been invited to visit the brooklyn bethel....during the grand wazzooo annual meeting this oct. i am a df'd dad living away from them for almost a year now...hardly any contact with them.

what can i do to prepare them and help them see the light?

any suggestions???

WTFBBQPWNT

You are the one related to Ted Jaracz right?

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World of Warcraft fans???

by Confucious in

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hey guys.... i'm a big gamer.

i play a game called world of warcraft.. i know of 2 other people on my server that are jw.. one is a fader and the other a regular at the meetings.. i actually discovered them by accident after chatting with them during christmas time.. just wondering if anyone else here plays on wow.. confucious

WTFBBQPWNT

I have a 60 Priest on a PvP server.

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Interesting developments

by SickofLies in

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hello everyone, remember me?

for those of you who are new i produced a documentary on disfellowshiping in the kingdom hall.

the interesting thing is that i was df'ed not for committing and 'gross' sin, as you might think, but i was df'ed of litterally asking to many questions.. anyway, i've heard the following news co's and do's in the us are talking about my case, i have been barred from ever entering a kingdom hall again (police notice was enfocred on me) and for some reason i have been getting calls from elders from the hall i was booted out of lately (i have not returned or answered the calls as of yet).

WTFBBQPWNT

Yeah nothing came up on that Google search.

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

WTFBBQPWNT

There is no comeback for it. It's true. Jehovah's Witnesses have a lot of things wrong, but the date of Jerusalem's destruction (or beginning of it's desolation by Medo-Persia) is not one of them.

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At what point did the WTS become overly controlling?

by jambon1 in

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i used to hear about good `ol days when people were happy dubs.

people had fun, did things together and it seems by the tone of the converstaions that there was less control over every tiny detail of the brothers lives.. i remember the 1st time someone told me as an unbaptised publisher that i would eventually be 'counceled' for not wearing a suit.

i was utterly stunned!

WTFBBQPWNT

The true authoritarian-type rule of the Society really began with Knorr throughout his term as president. Rutherford was too busy trying to make a name for himself or he might have been a success in controlling the organization better. Russell, though, taught nothing even resembling what JW's teach today. Russell knew that each person's relationship was between them and God and that their works wouldn't buy them life.

IS DAN LEEDER ON JWD?

by WTFBBQPWNT in

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dan if you're here, please let me know.

peace out brotha.

WTFBBQPWNT

Dan if you're here, please let me know. Peace out brotha.