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  Ray Franz CoC, was he in denial? Just asking.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  i was reading a little coc last night where ray f. disusses the witch hunt at bethel that resulted in all the oustings.

  as i read the doctrines that he questioned, (not judging him right or wrong), i noticed that he was questioning some of the fundamental beliefs of the wt.

  ie: gov.

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  Birdbrain, what has been Franz' "cause"??? Seems to me that the GB have a "cause" not Ray Franz. You seem to have a "cause" too. To try to show that the Watchtower is wonderful. You are truly in a cult. At least Franz and the rest of us can see the obvious! Hey, can you explain to me the rationale on the JW blood fractions ideas using "God's Word" only????

  You're clueless. I'm not even one of Jehovah's Witnesses. But I love how people get pissed when an opinion about Franz is shared.

  His "cause" was to collect minions that would satisfy that craving for power that he could no longer have quenched by being on the GB.

  About the blood fractions, it's not from "God's Word". Just more legalistic garbage to help the GB keep that grip tight.
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  Ray Franz CoC, was he in denial? Just asking.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. bible

  i was reading a little coc last night where ray f. disusses the witch hunt at bethel that resulted in all the oustings.

  as i read the doctrines that he questioned, (not judging him right or wrong), i noticed that he was questioning some of the fundamental beliefs of the wt.

  ie: gov.

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  Franz was out for scholarly glory in Brooklyn, and would have never resigned from the GB on his own. He enjoyed being a god in the organization far too much to do that.

  To understand CoC, you have to get into the mind of the author. He wasn't just trying to list the reasons why the average JW should reconsider being in the religion. He was trying to rally people to his cause. For instance, have you ever known somebody that has a drinking problem? They don't seek to make friends or hang out with non-drinkers. People like that surround themselves with other drinkers so they will feel better about the decisions they have made in their life.

  The mindless masses who were in the organization for the sole purpose of being delivered from this "wicked system" in 1975 were a perfect audience for Franz. So the more spin he could put on things like closed-door GB meetings, dissention in Bethel, or whatever else that clouds the mind with doubt...those are all tools Franz used to his advantage.
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  Crisis of Conscience Comments

  by AuntieJane in

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  i am going to send my jw relative the c of c book.

  with it i am going to enclose some postings.

  from this board.

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  ..or maybe he did read it and is entitled to his opinion.

  Yes, thank you fleaman.

  I thought it was ok to express opinions of books on this board. No need to bash somebody's avatar (LOL) when they express their opinion.

  As far as Franz goes, I can't believe the intelligent people on this board say things like "he isn't venting, he's just showing the facts in an un-biased way". GAG ME. He knew when he wrote that book that if he came across ANY other way, people would be like, "Oh he's just bitter and venting." Franz is smooth. The most successful people in debate are the ones that stay cool and collected, and that's what he does from an author's standpoint.

  For instance, if I want to discourage somebody from going to a certain restaurant that I got fired from, I could say, "OH MY GOD WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T EAT THERE! THE MANAGEMENT ARE ASSHOLES AND I WILL PICKET THEIR PARKING LOT FOR ETERNITY" ........or..........I could say in a cool and calm tone, "Ah, that place has great steaks and awesome entertainment. I would eat there myself, BUT they purposely mix in toilet water with their salads. As much as I hate to, I think I'll stay away."

  Ya'll know what I mean?
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  ANY SCANDALS INVOLVING POs AND COs?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  Oh yeah. The great "Wife Swapping Scandal of 1975" in Panama City, Florida.
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  My version of those "motivational" posters...

  by WTFBBQPWNT in

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  what do you guys think?.

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  Here's another one:

  
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  My version of those "motivational" posters...

  by WTFBBQPWNT in

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  oops, hit enter twice
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  Crisis of Conscience Comments

  by AuntieJane in

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  i am going to send my jw relative the c of c book.

  with it i am going to enclose some postings.

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  Yes, I am.
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  My version of those "motivational" posters...

  by WTFBBQPWNT in

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  What do you guys think?
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  Crisis of Conscience Comments

  by AuntieJane in

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  i am going to send my jw relative the c of c book.

  with it i am going to enclose some postings.

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  WTFBBQPWNT

  That book is crap in my opinion.
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  The Watch Tower can't be from the Lord (Blessings have no added sorrow)

  by garybuss in

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  2. bible

  i'm not usually posting scripture but i liked this one and don't remember the witness group teaching me this one.

  dave ramsey used it today.

  "the blessing of the lord, it maketh rich, .

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  Now if you try to apply the verse that way, then it would imply contradictions in the cases with Job, Stephen, Paul, and many more. Nobody gets the sweet without getting a little of the bitter.