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  Changed convention theme?

  by izobcenec in

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  i have heard a rumour, that some upcoming convention theme was changed, because.

  it promissed too much...i dont know if its the "special assembly day" theme or some other.... can anyone confirm this?

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  izobcenec

  no, this is serious...two elders confirmed this but I couldnt
  get any more info...
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  Changed convention theme?

  by izobcenec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  i have heard a rumour, that some upcoming convention theme was changed, because.

  it promissed too much...i dont know if its the "special assembly day" theme or some other.... can anyone confirm this?

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  izobcenec

  I have heard a rumour, that some upcoming convention theme was changed, because
  it promissed too much...I dont know if its the "special assembly day" theme or some other...
  Can anyone confirm this?
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  "Protect Your Children" gets international recognition

  by Spudinator in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  this will be of interest to all:.

  http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/global/english/releases/educational/030514.htm

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  WTBTS won the golden globe award at the same festival last year (2002) for "NO BLOOD-MEDICINE MEETS THE CHALLENGE" video and silver globe for "THE SILENT EPIDEMIC" video...I was wondering who this "intermedia" firm who organizes "world media festival" is anyway...in "info about intermedia" it states:
  
  Since 1965 intermedia has been active in the field of sponsored, audio-visual media-marketing. It is intermedia's particular strength to support Public - Relations work of Companies, Associations and Ministries. These institutions have a message they want to communicate to specified recipiants - with the aim to gain sympathy from their relevant target-groups by communicating open and honest PR - information. They want to communicate with their target-groups, they want to get into a dialogue. [yeah right!] intermedia develops the relevant communication-strategies for the benefit of the sponsor and bundles up these activities in such a way that they result in successful and efficient media-marketing with feedback information to the sponsor. Cora Chinbuah is the owner of intermedia and offers sponsors of informational media the service of a special agency.
  
  It is also noticable, that the special award is presented by United nations: The United Nations present the
  UNITED NATIONS SPECIAL AWARD
  Department of Public Information New York, USA for a programme distinguished by careful research and a thorough and objective approach to UN issues.In WT PR they mentioned some "respected organizations", such as CBC News (with recent JW abuse airing)...this selection is quite interesting, considering all "world media festival" participants:
  
  13TH STREET, 20|20 Multimedia, 3SAT, Accent Media Productions, Advertures, African American Civil War Memorial Freedom Foundation, Alice Donefeld, ALLCOM Film + AV GmbH, American Dawn Productions, American Kennel Club, Amersham Bioscience, Amsterdam Advertising, Arbeitskreis "Film" der Vereinigung der Metall-Berufsgenossenschaften, Arbeitskreis für Arbeitssicherheit beim Landesverband Hessen-Mittelrhein und Thüringen der gewerblichen Berufsgenossenschaften, Arte, Associate Directors, Astrium GmbH, ATOFINA, AVA Scheiner AG, Avset Oy, Ball State University, BASF AG, Bavaria Film Interactive GmbH, Bayerischer Rundfunk, BBC Worldwide, Bella Vista Film, Berufsgenossenschaft der Feinmechanik und Elektrotechnik, Berufsgenossenschaft für Fahrzeughaltungen, Best Buy Children´s Foundation, Bildersturm TV und Videoproduktion GmbH, Bilfinger Berger AG, Bison International, BM 8 GmbH, Bundesministerium für Umwelt, Naturschutz und Reaktorsicherheit, Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung, Bürgermeister-Reuter-Stiftung, Ca' Gatti Design, CADRAGE GmbH, Carlo Production SA, Carlton Television Ltd,. castor-film GmbH, Challenge Film GmbH, China Central Television - CCTV, Cinécosse, City Küchen, Clariant AG, Close Up Foundation, CNBC Europe, Creápolis Media, Creating Images, Creative Action Holland, Creative House Okumura, DaimlerChrysler AG, DaimlerChrysler tv.media GmbH, De Kroon Wissenraet & Associés bv, Degussa AG, Deutscher Sparkassen -und Giroverband, Deutscher Verkehrssicherheitsrat DVR e.V., Development Center of North-East Finland, DEXIA Bank Belgium, DG IPR-P/AVM, Diakonisches Werk Bayern, Die Akademie Bruderhilfe-Familienfürsorge GmbH, Discovery Channel, DOCKHOUSE FILM & TELEVISION AB, Douglas Wolfsperger Filmproduktion, Dow Deutschland GmbH & Co. OHG, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, DSF Deutsches Sportfernsehen, Duravit AG, DVR Deutscher Verkehrssicherheitsrat e.V., EADS Deutschland GmbHEuropean Aeronautic Defence and Space Company, E-motion AV-Medien Consulting & Produktion GmbH, Europa Fachpresse Verlag, Eurosport, Faro Media creative work, Finnair, Fireworks Entertainment, Flavian Kurth Basel, FORD- Werke AG, Fujiwara Construction Co., Ltd., Gary Null and Associates, Gentjänst Film AB, German United Distributors GmbH, Gerumodo, Giraffe Film Company, Gisbert Hindennach, Gösta Serlachius Museum of Fine Arts, GRAFFITI/BBDO, Greiner Extrusionstechnik, Gruppe 5 Filmproduktion GmbH, Guido Hecker Communication & Management, GWM Gesellschaft für Weiterbildung und Medienkonzeptionen mbH, hagenfilm GmbH, Hardy Communications, Inc., Hayashibara Company, Limited, Heineken Brouwerijen NV, Helsinki City Museum, Holmen Paper AB, HQ Interaktive Mediensysteme GmbH, Huschert Film + Medien GmbH, HypoVereinsbank AG, Imagi Animation Studios Limited, Imagi Production Limited, Immigration and Naturalisation Service, INDOC Industrie- und Fernsehfilm GmbH, Informationszentrum der deutschen Versicherungen, iNG Group, intervideo Filmproduktion, ITV Network, U.K., Jamestown US-Immobilien GmbH, Kaiser + More Agentur für Kommunikation, Karl Storz GmbH & Co. KG, Karlheinz Baumann Naturfilm, KAUFDESIGN, Klaas van der Meulen´s FILM ASSOCIATION, Krassmann Produktion, LACON Corporate Design-Management GmbH, Lakhanpal Productions, LaSalle Bank Video Studio, LifeWorksWell Productions, LINZ AG, Löwi Design, LUCIE P Film & Fernsehproduktion GmbH, M. Shanken Communications, M+W Zander d.i.b. Facility Management, M6 (France), Macromedia GmbH-Akademie für neue Medien, MAGMA Films, Mariposa Cultural Foundation, MEBC, mecom film- und tv Produktion GmbH, Media 3, Gesellschaft für audiovisuelle Kommunikation mbH, Mediopolis Film- und Fernsehproduktion GmbH Berlin, Mekano AB, Mercedes Benz Werk Bremen, Merck KGaA, Microsoft GmbH, Midwest Wireless Communications (MWC), Minnesota Department of Human Services, Minnesota Thunder, MKK Hamburg, Momentum The Netherlands, Mondo TV S.p.A., Municipia, SA - Empresa de Cartografia e Sistemas de Informacao, National Epilepsy Fonds, National Intitutes of Health, Naumann Film GmbH, NC Media, New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, Newland International, NEWS & ART Media Company GmbH, NMK, Nolet Distillery, Norddeutscher Rundfunk (NDR), n-tv, Ogilvy & Mather Healthcare Deutschland (Aventis), OMD Czech, On The Scene Productions, OSCAR PRODUCTS CORPORATION, Peter Vogt & Associates, Inc., plonsker media e.K, Pohjantähti-Elokuva Oy, PowerChildBeratungsstelle gegen sexuelle Gewalt an Kindern und Jugendlichen, Prima TV, Publicis Dialog Marketing GmbH, Publicis KommunikationsAgentur GmbH, Radical-Images, RC1-REGINE CARDIN PRODUCTION, RedOrange Filmproduktion, REINHARDT DESIGN, Rinku International Logistics Center Co., Ltd., Romanian National of Disabled People, Rolls Wood Group, RTL, Russell & Herder, Schweizer Fernsehen DRS, Sesame Workshop, SEVEN SENSES, Shriners Hospitals for Children, Siemens AG, Siemens AG A&D AS, SIEMENS AG MEDICAL SOLUTIONS, Siemens AG PTD, Siemens Automation & Drives, Siemens Schweiz AG, Signature Films, Smile Audiovisual Oy, Stendahls Reklambyra AB, Stoiber Produktion, Stora Enso Fine Paper, Berghuizer Mill,, STREAM, STREIF GmbH, Studio Hamburg Fernseh Allianz (FA) GmbH, Studio Universal, STUMM-FILM Dr. Rolf Stumm Medien GmbH, STV Slovenská Televízia, SUOMEN VISIOTALO Oy, Swedish Television Channel 3, Swedish Television Channel 4, Swedish Television Channel 5, SWM Städtische Werke Magdeburg, Tchibo Frisch-Röst-Kaffee GmbH, Telescope Film, Television Espanola S.A. (TVE S.A.), Television Suisse Romande, The Independent Production Fund, Inc., TPG NV, Trees Forever, TUI AG, TVN-Television Programm- und Nachrichtengesellschaft mbH & Co. KG, Ubachs Wisbrun, ULRICH BOCK FILM Film- und Fernsehproduktion GmbH, United Film & TV AB, United Visions TV & Film Productions GmbH, Universal Joint, Universal Studios Networks Deutschland, urbanista.digital reality, US Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), UVA Kommunikation und Medien GmbH, VARA Television, vdBJ Communicatie/MRM, Veikkaus, Verein Deutscher Werkzeugmaschienenfabriken (VDW), Verein Naherholung im Umland Hamburg e.V., Vereinigung der Metall-Berufsgenossenschaften, VIER PFOTEN e.V., ViON GmbH & Co.KG, Virtual Identity AG, VISART GmbH, visavis FilmproduktionStephan Horst und Marcel Neumann GbR, Vision Media Productions, Vogel Audiovision GmbH & Co. KG, Volkswagen AG, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Finanskonto, VR, Vrumona, VTM, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, WBS Television, WDR Köln, ARTE Redaktion, WDR Westdeutscher Rundfunk, Wellspring Media, Wintrich TV Media Film- und Fernsehproduktion GmbH, World Teach, Inc., Wrigley Company, Yamaha Motor Europe nv, ZCENE Moving Media Company
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  "Protect Your Children" gets international recognition

  by Spudinator in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  this will be of interest to all:.

  http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/global/english/releases/educational/030514.htm

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  The World Media Festival is a global competition with participants from more than 20 countries representing some of the most respected organizations in the world such as ABC, CBS News, Microsoft, Orion, Universal Studios, Volkswagen, and BMW

  They are mentioning "respected organizations" such as CBC News...and CBC News recently aired story about abuse within JW's...coincidence?
  
  http://www.silentlambs.org/education/CBSnews.cfm
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  Did You Know That You Could Be Disfellowshipped For French Kissing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a number of years ago, a body of elders discussed the matter of "french kissing".

  they came to the conclusion that this practice of "french kissing" was a disfellowshipping offense on the grounds of "engaging in loose conduct".

  one young couple were judicially reproved for their "sin" and the elders felt that since the matter was not widely known, that they would be "privately reproved".

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  I'm sorry, you meant FREEDOM kissing?
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  JW sue TV program in sweden

  by happy man in

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  2. friends

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  bigg censation yesterday when we have jw respons to the tv program about pedofie problem in the organisaition.on our meeting we have a letter read that persons how was on tv was lying, and we are now going tro take aktion in court to stopp tis lying things.. this was wery unexpekted, fore us, seems like our leader take this thing widh the two wittnes role and the confidentiallity , are very importan, haven it beenbettewr to polygise fore the bad thing happend,instedof that this is bigg lies, this will be wery exaiting to se how it will end.. did this also happend in us after dateline .

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  Very interesting news, any more info on this?
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  Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

  by Jourles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

  regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

  well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

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  what about this: baptizm is only a SYMBOL of a personal dedication to jehovah,
  what if you say, that you didn't dedicate yourself to jehovah, because that wasn't
  explained to you properly, so the symbol of your dedication just isn't valid. no
  dedication means no valid baptizm. thoughts?
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  Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

  by Jourles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

  regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

  well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

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  izobcenec

  Great stuff! Do we have a lawyer on this forum?
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  free literature

  by Beanie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mother in law informed me that the mags, books, bibles etc.. are now free over the counter.

  (you put a donation in the box).

  apparantly this dispels the notion that the wtbs is only out to make money.

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  izobcenec

  this is a summary of what really happened:
  

  • Early 1980 State of California informs Jimmy Swaggart Ministries that tax is due for religious books and tapes sold in the state since 1974. Swaggart eventually pays the tax--$183,000.00--but sues for a refund. The case begins moving toward the U.S. Supreme Court.
  • February, 1989 U.S. Supreme Court rules it is illegal for Texas (and 14 other states) to exempt religious books from sales tax. Some states had been taxing religious books all along.
  • Summer, 1989 WT Society gives away "free" books released at U.S. conventions. Witnesses are instructed to place donations in contribution boxes to cover the cost.
  • June 22, 1989 Watchtower Society, files amicus curiae ("friend of the court") brief with U.S. Supreme Court in Jimmy Swaggart case. Others filing similar briefs include National Council of Churches and Society for Krishna Consciousness.
  • January 17, 1990 U.S. Supreme Court rules against Jimmy Swaggart Ministries, declaring that the sales tax must be paid.
  • February 9, 1990 WT Society writes letter to congregations announcing that literature will no longer be sold at Kingdom Hall and no price will be set in door-to-door distribution.
  • February 25, 1990 February 9th letter from Society is read at Sunday meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses across the United States.
  • March 1, 1990 New policy of distributing literature without naming a price goes into effect.
  • The March 15, 1990, WATCHTOWER magazine and March 22nd AWAKE!--printed earlier--still say "25 cents (U.S.) a copy" and "$5.00 (U.S.) per year." The April 1, 1990, Watchtower no longer carries a price.
  • March 11, 1990 Announcement is made at Kingdom Halls in the U.S. that food will be available at no cost, on a freewill donation basis, at JW conventions.
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  free literature

  by Beanie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mother in law informed me that the mags, books, bibles etc.. are now free over the counter.

  (you put a donation in the box).

  apparantly this dispels the notion that the wtbs is only out to make money.

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  It would appear so, but in fact it is quite opposite...
  first, you should check, why did the society chose to
  offer its literature "for free"...check this out
  
  http://www.paulblizard.com/jimmy.html
  
  compare that with BOE letters, sent to elders in 1990.
  
  http://www.dirtclod.com/yappa-ng/index.php?album=BodyOfElders//Literature&

  (if the link doesnt work, copy - paste it)