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  Are there any religions that worship God but do not believe in an Afterlife

  by jwfacts in

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  it seems that people only worship god for the reward of a resurrection.

  people normally do not admit that, and say that even if there was no resurrection they would worship god for the life that he has given them.

  a good indication of whether this could be true is if religions existed that worshipped god but do not believe in a soul or resurrection or everlasting life.

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  I believe in doing the right thing because it's the right thing to do, not for some childish reward/threat.

  Say there are two boys, Billy and Bobby. When their mother tells them to go clean their rooms, Billy says "ok mom, it's my room and I got it dirty so I'll go clean it".

  Bobby, on the other hand tells his mom, "No. Not unless you give me something". So mom says, "I'll make your favorite dinner tonight if you go clean your room (heaven). Of coarse, if you don't clean you room, I'm going to spank your butt (hell). So Bobby goes to clean his room.

  So both boys cleaned up their rooms, but for different reasons. Which kid would you say cleaned his room for the right reason? Gymbob
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  How many here went to pioneer school, and who were your instructors?

  by BonaFide in

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  i went in 1982, one of my instructors was bill baxter.

  i taught seven pioneer schools, but in another country.

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  I went in 79', Hickory, NC....can't remember instructor names. Actually the only thing I really remember about the whole thing was the nice family we stayed with for the week. They had a teenage son who just idolized my pioneer partner and me because we were former bethelites, and that was where he wanted to go when he reached the proper age. If they could see me now!!

  Aude~

  I remember Harold Weidener and Sekela as CO's growing up in SoCal. Gymbob
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  The psychology of a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been meaning to put this up here for a while, so here it goes.

  this photo is called the "cusp catastrophe model" (for more on cusp catastrophe go here physchologist leslie l. downing has used this model to show how people tend to behave when either accepting new beliefs: (his work on this subject can be found in the book "war in heaven, heaven on earth") .

  it may appear to be confusing, but i think that once you take a closer look things become quite apparent.

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  Oh, my adult daughter is now DF'd....
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  The psychology of a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been meaning to put this up here for a while, so here it goes.

  this photo is called the "cusp catastrophe model" (for more on cusp catastrophe go here physchologist leslie l. downing has used this model to show how people tend to behave when either accepting new beliefs: (his work on this subject can be found in the book "war in heaven, heaven on earth") .

  it may appear to be confusing, but i think that once you take a closer look things become quite apparent.

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  gymbob

  My adult daughter (who left a few years ago when I did) told me just the other day that she wouldn't mind being a casual meeting attender at the KH just so that she could spend some time with her JW mom. It really shocked me to hear her say that.

  Then a few days later, her mom told her that she can't spend ANY time with her, due to a conversation the elders had with her, and that really pissed my daughter off, because my ex sometimes comes over to my daughter's house to see her/our grandkids. Not anymore!

  My daughter said that she felt as if the witnesses were literally, "pushing her away".

  I really believe that most of the time, those people just don't get it.....
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  Name People That Are "Hot" & Those That Think They Are But Aren't, Really

  by minimus in

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  i think madonna thinks she's a real hottie.

  i don't.. julia roberts is still the pretty woman.. .

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  Ok, if you're going with Ann Margaret or Natalie Wood, I'll trump you with Sophia Loren! GYMBB
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  News from Bethel Heavy

  by cinnamon1642 in

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  2. friends

  pioneer hour change is legit.

  letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early october right before the tract campaign starts.. .

  elimination of circuit overseers.

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  Jringe01~

  You brought a knife to a gunfight. Everybody knows you don't **** with Mary...in case you hadn't noticed, she just kicked your ass!!
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  Welcome to the Middle Ages: 13 Killed in Soccer Riot Due to "Witchcraft"

  by daniel-p in

  1. social
  2. current

  i've heard of riots out of patriotism and team-pride, but this is something else!

  ap report: congo soccer riot over 'witchcraft' leaves 13 dead .

  kinshasa, congo -- accusations that a soccer player was using witchcraft during a match in eastern congo sparked a riot that killed 13 people, a u.n.-funded radio station reported monday.

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  You can use the witnesses as a great example of what you guys are discussing.

  The only real growth the witness religion is making is in 3rd world (uneducated) countries. Plus, look what they teach about higher education! Gymbob

  p.s. I'm just glad I got me a edumacation now!
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  Does this weeks' Service Meeting touch on how to treat df'd relatives?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  a friend of clyde's, who is an ubm but attends meetings anyway, called today to say that their was a part on last night's meeting that was very hard hitting on how to treat disfellowshipped relatives.

  he thinks his wife was being singled out because she recently spent several days at her daughter's home to help out with her new baby.

  the daughter was disfellowshipped over 10 years ago for living with her boyfriend, but now they have been legally married for quite some time.

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  gymbob

  Just looking at that Service meeting schedule makes me want to vomit.

  I know why some of you guys still go to meetings even though you know it's not the truth, I just don't know how you do it!
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  Dr. Phil does a show on religious cults / brainwashing--tell him about JWs!

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even if you don't want to be on his show (there's an option to indicate that you don't), please leave your comments to raise awareness with his staff... (if this has been posted already, my apologies).

  http://www.drphil.com/plugger/respond/?plugid=12525.

  have you been brainwashed?.

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  gymbob

  Wha happened~

  X-L-N-T !
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  Dr. Phil does a show on religious cults / brainwashing--tell him about JWs!

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even if you don't want to be on his show (there's an option to indicate that you don't), please leave your comments to raise awareness with his staff... (if this has been posted already, my apologies).

  http://www.drphil.com/plugger/respond/?plugid=12525.

  have you been brainwashed?.

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  gymbob

  I can't stand Dr. Phil, but I'd love to see him go after the WTB&TS.....