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  Evolution still bugs me

  by Geronimo in

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  i know there are a lot of threads on evolution and creation and i've read a few here and there.

  how can complex systems arise of themselves in the face of entropy?

  one evolutionist book i read used snowflakes to show this is possible.

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  I love these evolution arguments. Evolution is unstoppable. Argue all you want, but after we die, it will still be here. As long as there is DNA, heritability, mutation and reproduction it will still be here, independent of humans or their attitude towards it. Anti-evolutionists can only bury, or be taught to bury, their heads in the sand.
  
  Kid-A - some of your posts are waaaay cool. Lot's of other good posts on here too. Remember the quote 'arguing with creationists is like whack-a-mole. you deal with one argument <whack>, you think it's gone, then it pops up again - the same argument you already dealt with' - process becomes dull after a while, but all the time the evidence continues to pile up.
  
  Evolution is not anti-god. Evolution is God's creative process in motion. To argue against evolution is to blaspheme God's creation.
  
  What is the creationist explanation for new species over time (millions of species over billions of years)? Does God parachute another fully-formed species onto the planet every few years? The creationist's God is a simpleton, they blaspheme God for their own political ends.
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  Has anyone spoken 'in tongues'?

  by lighthouse19something in

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  i've been attending an independent church were the women wave flags, play realy loud live music, speak in tongues (not me) and alot of other thingsi never saw in kh.

  it realy feels weird, but have closer friendships than in kh.

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  I've been attending an independent church were the women wave flags, play realy loud live music, speak in tongues (not me) and alot of other thingsI never saw in kh. It realy feels weird, but have closer friendships than in kh.

  Why? Why are you going to this 'independent church'? If it 'really feels weird' maybe your instinct is telling you something. Do you judge the authenticness of a church by the closeness of the people in it? I'm sure there are Scientologists, FDLS members etc that are real close to each other, maybe try those religions too?
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  Maybe Interesting Blood News

  by truth.ceeker in

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  i had a meeting with my heart surgeon yesterday, and after informing him of our faith, my wife still holding onto to parts of the organization, the dr. said that, "there is a new form that just came out last year from your mother church in new york.

  " what this document does is (1) make it clear that the person is not allowing blood to be used, (2) makes it clear that the dr. will have a court order ready in case blood is deemed medically necessary to sustain life and (3) absolves the person's conscience of any guilt if it came down to it.

  i'm not sure if this document has been discussed before, but i thought that it was a bit intriguing.

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  inthetruth - do you think that everyone on here has not heard such fallacious logic before? These are mostly ex-witnesses - they know the JW arguments as well, if not better, than you do. They know exactly how and why it is nonsense. Get it in perspective.
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  What song would you like to hear entering the Kingdom Hall?

  by JH in

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  here i am, rocked you like a hurricane.

  here i am, rocked you like a hurricane.

  here i am, rocked you like a hurricane.

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  Rocky theme tune
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  Watchtower Evolution Fraud

  by Amazing in

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  the watchtower society first published a book on evolution in the late 1960s or early 1970s, simply known as the evolution book.

  it is a small hardbound book, the same in size at the old "truth" book.

  other than reading it, i never really studied it.

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  WTFBBQPWNT -

  That is like saying: If I came from my grandfather, why does my cousin exist?
  
  'Humans come from apes' actually means humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor at about 6 million years ago.

  Your grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad is the same animal as Bob the Chimpanzee's grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad's grandad (or thereabouts).

  The have been many further subsequent splits, but the descendant species other than humans and chimpanzees, that weren't our direct ancestors, have become extinct along the way.

  We share a common ancestor to the gorilla, earlier than to the chimpanzee.

  And all life on the planet has descended from a common ancestor that existed 4.5 billion years ago.
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  Watchtower Evolution Fraud

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower society first published a book on evolution in the late 1960s or early 1970s, simply known as the evolution book.

  it is a small hardbound book, the same in size at the old "truth" book.

  other than reading it, i never really studied it.

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  This quote from Thomas Huxley seems quite apt:

  'l would rather be descended from an ape than a bishop'

  Thomas at the time was championing Charles Darwin's idea of Natural Selection, the main voice of opposition was the Bishop of Oxford, Samuel Wilberforce.
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  Don't misunderstand WTFBBQPWNT

  by skeptic2 in

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  that bird actually looks like it's saying "oh really???

  these acronyms come from online chat/gaming.

  orly - quick way to type oh really.

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  Or maybe I have bipolar personality disorder...
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  WHAT QUESTIONS SHOULD WE ASK THIRDWITNESS?

  by badboy in

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  any ideas?

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  Why he bothers.
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  Don't misunderstand WTFBBQPWNT

  by skeptic2 in

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  that bird actually looks like it's saying "oh really???

  these acronyms come from online chat/gaming.

  orly - quick way to type oh really.

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  Husband and Wife
  See early post by Moomin identifying me
  No conspiracy unfortunately
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  Telephone Telapathy

  by lonelysheep in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060905/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_telepathy

  has anyone ever experienced this?

  i have, as well as with emails and especially text messages.. do you think there's any chance this could be real-that there is a valid, unspoken connection between people who reach out to each other?

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  She soon forgot about all the other things that were so wrong. I guess it was because she just wanted to believe rather than weighing up the evidence.

  
  It's a consequence of how our brains work.

  It has been well demonstrated that we remember things expressed positively more than we remember things expressed negatively.

  Thus we count the hits and forget the misses.

  If the situation is reversed, i.e. you are looking for the medium to get it wrong, you will likely underestimate the number of times they got it right - because again you will count the 'hits' (getting it wrong) and forget the misses (getting it right).

  If you are aware of our tendency to do this, then you can counter it a little, or at least know to look for third-party independant corroboration to double-check the impression you have,