Hoping4Change

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  BoE letters up (1977-2001), plus public talk outlines

  by Jourles in

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  2. friends

  it looks like the 1977-2001 letters are up!

  the '01-'06 letters will be forthcoming shortly i hear.. http://www.reexamine.org/boe/.

  i would suggest downloading the index (3.8mb) first, then you can view/download a particular letter referenced from the index.

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  Hoping4Change

  Here's a download manager:

  http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/
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  Do Kingdom Halls ever do the following?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am assuming that the sunday and tuesday services are open to the general public.

  do the kingdom halls ever stop someone from coming to these services simply becuase it is known that they dont agree with what is being taught (i.e an 'unbeliever')?

  how about if a known 'unbeliever' joins a 'believing' spouse for all the meetings?

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  I would go to join/support spouse and research. Also so that it can not be said that my knowledge of Jehovah's Witnesses only comes from 'apostate' material. If I ever want my spouse to listen to what I might have to say about things, the least I can do is listen/read what she is listening to (and reading) and be able to provide perspective, when possible. I would/could NEVER join; conscience and beliefs would never allow it. I have no spiritual hunger which their 'food' could possibly feed. Until they 1) honestly address all the issues that have been rightfully brought to bear against them, 2)change the disfellowshipping policy, 3) stop persectuing other religions, 4) stop the coersion used to prevent/curtail free/critical thought, 5) change the blood policy and 6) allow honest discussion and debate without fear of reprimand, they remain naught but an intellectual curiosity to me.(I'm sure there are a lot of other things in the list that just arent coming to mind at the moment)
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  Do Kingdom Halls ever do the following?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am assuming that the sunday and tuesday services are open to the general public.

  do the kingdom halls ever stop someone from coming to these services simply becuase it is known that they dont agree with what is being taught (i.e an 'unbeliever')?

  how about if a known 'unbeliever' joins a 'believing' spouse for all the meetings?

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  Hoping4Change

  I am assuming that the Sunday and Tuesday services are open to the general public. Do the Kingdom Halls ever stop someone from coming to these services simply becuase it is known that they dont agree with what is being taught (i.e an 'unbeliever')? How about if a known 'unbeliever' joins a 'believing' spouse for all the meetings? Will the believing spouse be told to tell the unbeliever 'not' to come if they're 'not going to join'? I understand that it wouldnt happen at first or immediately, but would/could it happen over time? Of the unbeliever, assume that that one always goes properly dressed, is always polite, never questions anyone's faith or attempts to 'stumble' anyone in anyway, but simply sits, listens and follows along. Thanks
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  The missing 20 years and Jehoiachin's exile

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my attempt to make this issue as simplified as possible, i have set out to determine exactly wherein the wts' missing 20 years must be found (607 bc versus 587/86 bc).

  i think i have done it, and i would like some confirmation/correction from alleymom, leolaia, narkissos and any others who consider themselves scholarly types.. first, using the kiss method alleymom posted some time back i regressed the accession years of the kings.

  since the hillah stele astronomically confirms the first regnal year of nabonidus in 555 bc, and since the wts unqualifiedly agrees with this date (although they neglect to inform why they agree), nabonidus' accession year was 556 bc.

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  ummm....Josephus and the 537 calculation are "Secular" calculations, are they not? (Still wondering what "biblical chronology" is. Why? Because I am a simple person and it seems to me pertinent that in order to understand (which I am trying to do)the root cause of any disagreement, one must first establish if there is anything that opposing sides DO agree to; i.e. build up the list of 'agreed to' assumptions/beliefs, and THEN proceed to show how/why one derives the conclusions one does.)
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  The missing 20 years and Jehoiachin's exile

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my attempt to make this issue as simplified as possible, i have set out to determine exactly wherein the wts' missing 20 years must be found (607 bc versus 587/86 bc).

  i think i have done it, and i would like some confirmation/correction from alleymom, leolaia, narkissos and any others who consider themselves scholarly types.. first, using the kiss method alleymom posted some time back i regressed the accession years of the kings.

  since the hillah stele astronomically confirms the first regnal year of nabonidus in 555 bc, and since the wts unqualifiedly agrees with this date (although they neglect to inform why they agree), nabonidus' accession year was 556 bc.

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  Scholar, Given that there are no dates in the bible, can you please explain what you mean by "biblical chronology"? thx
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  Announcement: Another favorable court ruling regarding Napa County lawsuit

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm thrilled to tell you about the latest court decision made in california a few days ago which kimberlee norris said would be announced today, monday, on jwd.. on july 3rd, i started a thread where the last two rulings in the napa county, california lawsuit, charissa w. v. watchtower, new york, et al., were posted.

  both decisions were favorable to the plaintiff.

  see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.

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  Is there any chance that if the CA Supreme court upholds the ruling, the WTS will go the final step to the US Supreme Court? Not knowing much about such things, is there any way that they can use the argument that for a State to legislate/dictate what is considered penitential privelege and what is not, is a violation of the 1st amendment? (sorry if this seem like a naive question) What kind of delay is involved? Any chance the CA supreme court will be as quick with a response as the last appeal attempt?
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  Excellent video - Witnesses of Jehovah

  by Grace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had never seen this before yesterday and i implore anyone (especially those who are still witnesses) to view this:.

  witnesses of jehovah.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2183288529160546808.

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  It would be nice to see a full scale documentary (at least 2-3 hrs, perhaps even a 2- part, 2hr each) on the history of the WTBS and its' doctrines WITHOUT any Christian, "alternative religious"or even anti-jw bias. I am fully convinced that the facts stand well enough on their own. Pointing out the falied prophecies, shifting doctrines, and controversial practices as simple facts without judegment would be a great thing to see in a well presented film. Such a show should also explain the WT side of things, the methods and explainations they use to justify themselves. Allow the WTBS reasoning and methodolgies be seen. Let history and current events speak for themselves. Anyone suppose this could ever happen?
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  Kerry Louderback-Wood on today's BBC 'Sunday Programme'

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  somebody gave me the heads up on this.. if anyone can find a way of recording it before it disappears ...?

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/programmes/sunday/ select 'listen to the current programme in full' option, and the excerpt begins approx 10.37 into the stream.. or.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/realmedia/sunday/sundayauto.ram.

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  Hoping4Change

  Is there a simple place to upload a 2MB mp3 file (no long and involved sign ups, etc)?
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  Announcement: Another favorable court ruling regarding Napa County lawsuit

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm thrilled to tell you about the latest court decision made in california a few days ago which kimberlee norris said would be announced today, monday, on jwd.. on july 3rd, i started a thread where the last two rulings in the napa county, california lawsuit, charissa w. v. watchtower, new york, et al., were posted.

  both decisions were favorable to the plaintiff.

  see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.

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  Nope, never heard of it. ick. Still, I thought even if there was some kind of claim to consent, aren't sexual relations with a minor still considered 'statuatory rape'?
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  Announcement: Another favorable court ruling regarding Napa County lawsuit

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm thrilled to tell you about the latest court decision made in california a few days ago which kimberlee norris said would be announced today, monday, on jwd.. on july 3rd, i started a thread where the last two rulings in the napa county, california lawsuit, charissa w. v. watchtower, new york, et al., were posted.

  both decisions were favorable to the plaintiff.

  see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.

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  Is there such a thing as a 'consenting minor'? I guess I wasn't aware that it would ever be ok for a minor and an adult to have sexual relations. Is there such a viewpoint from a legal point of view?