i sent a link to my new video and told them that they were featured in it.
i hope this induces mass hysteria at the tower office.. i guessed the addresses, and i haven't gotten any error messages.
so if you want to send a message to the gb or anyone else, the address should be:.
"Try to telnet but to port 25 instead"
Uhh ya I did. its shut.
I was just able to get open connections and an esmtp response from both mx1 and mx2. The response looks like this: 220 mx1.jw.org ESMTP Postfix / 220 mx2.jw.org ESMTP Postfix (italics mine) It sits and waits an SMTP command. (typically a HELO of EHLO command to begin a transaction)
i sent a link to my new video and told them that they were featured in it.
i hope this induces mass hysteria at the tower office.. i guessed the addresses, and i haven't gotten any error messages.
so if you want to send a message to the gb or anyone else, the address should be:.
ahhh did an nslookup on jw.org. mail is mx1.jw.org. Telnet is shut. cant test
email servers typically listen on port 25, telnet by default is port 23. Try to telnet but to port 25 instead
email said we sould use this at the door for futher support on the evils of christmas.. .
http://tellingthetruth.50webs.com/4-4.html
I brought up the site and killed it. I didn't like the message asking me if I would allow this site to access my Windows clipboard. There's no valid reason for any web site to try to do this.
Good idea. Check out "Clipboard hijacking" (although at least the site asked)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733
http://ithreats.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/clipboard-hijacking-swf-poc/
forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?
i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?
is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.
leavingwt - Great graphic! Thanks!
forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?
i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?
is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.
the typical response would be that the bible students were the only people "seeking the truth" and they were chosen because they had the right heart condition. I have heard this many times before and even within the past few weeks!
You tell this to a dub and they will totally eat that up! they wont question for a second that the scripture says NOTHING about heart condition. It says "proper food at the proper time".
JW's will claim that the fundamental doctrines were in place - no trinity, no hell fire, no immortality of the soul (except for 144k) to this day this seems to be the mantra of the WTS. This "Trinity" of Russelite truths is still referred to as the main difference between JW's and christendom. What the JW's neglect to realize is the while what they DONT believe with respects to these 3 items hasnt changed - what they DO BELIVE has changed substantially.
Also that Russel was using Pyramidology, Phrenology, Astrology, and Millerite/Adventist types & anit-types to prove his beliefs may not enter their minds either.So you ask "what was the proper food they were teaching"? - good question. When you figure it out let us know!
Thanks for the response. It would seem to be nothing but pure arrogance that would drive one to actually believe that they were the only people 'seeking the truth'; people sought the truth long before and continue to do so, the Bible Students / JWs I'd like to hear an explanation from a JW here why, supossing just for a moment, that the 'trinity of truths" listed is indeed %100 correct, why those 3 items would be enough for Jesus to choose them over others. Why can't trinitarians be wrong yet not receive the mercy of Jehovah or Christ when judgement comes, just as JW's must expect some mercy for all of the errors/mistakes they have made? Can any practicing JW's explain this to me? I suppose I could go to one of their forums and ask, but having seen what goes on on them, it seems that asking the hard questions always gets ignored, danced around, or ridiculed.
forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?
i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?
is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.
Forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the Bible Students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when Jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of Truth? I am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during Jesus's selection that led him to select the Bible Students? Is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the Bible students during that time period that could warrant Jesus' choice?
i thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.
i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.
those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.
your wrong i don't think there error-less far from it but I think that the errors they have are typical of what is found in and human group and if the NT is to believed typically seen in there too
Reniaa, having not read enough to know (and I don thave the time to go searching through past threads) where you stand, I'd be interested to see a summary/list of the 'error's you are referring to.
sounds like it says he abused a minor, 12 years old, for 3 years at a kingdom hall.
also that the jws did not report the crime.
if this is accurate, the french will definately go after them as they are not so fond of cults.
(sorry for the cross post, but it seemed worthy to do so)
and the translation:
"
| A member of Jehovah's Witnesses was indicted Thursday by a judge of the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Saint-Die-des-Vosges (Vosges), rape of a minor for 15 years. It was left at liberty, told judicial source. He is suspected of having violated between 1986 and 1989 a young girl a dozen years in the room of the kingdom, place of worship of Jehovah's Witnesses, Saint-Die-des-Vosges. The mother of the girl attended itself at the time the association. The victim had committed suicide on 22 March 2006 in front of the kingdom, leading to a judicial inquiry. Five other people in custody were released Thursday. The Jehovah's Witnesses could be prosecuted for not reporting crimes. AP" |
bill bowen of silentlent lambs recently returned home from france.
the french government is concerned about the activities of the jehovah's witnesses and their strange behavior.
this sad incident of suicide took place recently in france and bill bowen will discuss it and other information concerning the trouble that the witnesses are encountering in france.
Is this it? Found via this: http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TIMJ68DBNHEKQ08MN )
and the translation:
"
| A member of Jehovah's Witnesses was indicted Thursday by a judge of the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Saint-Die-des-Vosges (Vosges), rape of a minor for 15 years. It was left at liberty, told judicial source. He is suspected of having violated between 1986 and 1989 a young girl a dozen years in the room of the kingdom, place of worship of Jehovah's Witnesses, Saint-Die-des-Vosges. The mother of the girl attended itself at the time the association. The victim had committed suicide on 22 March 2006 in front of the kingdom, leading to a judicial inquiry. Five other people in custody were released Thursday. The Jehovah's Witnesses could be prosecuted for not reporting crimes. AP" |
in the works, watchtower comments will soon sport a webpage under an prominent counter-jw website.
toying with the design, let me know what you think.
site will have embedded videos, links to high-quality downloads and pdf supplimentals.
Can't wait for the site! Just a thought - is there any chance that the phrase "Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom" is a copyrighted phrase or subtitle? I'd hate see the site get tripped up by something like that.
