Posts by blumandy

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Should you believe in the Trinity?

by 1ofhissheep in

hey, i am new to this site and looking into the jw faith and watchtower.

i have currently been studying what was written in the "should you believe in the trinity?

" publication found at watchtower.org .

blumandy

i ,too, am trying to see wht the Bible really says . ive been reading john in the niv (new internatinal verion)bible, and have already read a verse that proves jesus and god are equal. which was eye opening for me! i was raised a jw, and dont remember reading this, probaly beacause i didnt. i imagine in there bible its not that obviouse, that there equal. ive researcehed who wrote there "bible", and was shocked there was little to no schooling in regards to translation. do ur own research, and im sure u will figure things out!~mandy

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Hate at site of convention goers!

by blumandy in

so im eating dinner with my hubby and kids at a local family restaurant, when in walks some people with name tags of some sort, i cant read them, im sitting to far away, but they have the look of the convention name tags.

well i guess i can spot a jw right off, because sure enough as i got closer, there it was a flash back from the past.

the same ol name tags.

blumandy

thanks to all that posted a reply, i read them all!

i must of been blaming the jws instead of the org , all these years. i think because i was "raised" in it, i didntt see it as an organazation, but rather i saw it as a group of jws.i guess thats how the org wants it to seem, so they dont get the blame!

i will certainly start trying to change my way of thinking from now on. i certainly do presently hate the whole lot of it,jw's,for alowing themseleves to blindly follow, and the org, for incorrectly leading the blind. but in time, ihope to feel only pity and not hate. hate is soo strong, and its not a good feeling to carry. this board had made me angry, reading posters problems with the jws/org, but now i think its starting to help.thanks again, everyone, nice to see such a wide variety on here, helping a newbie!

mandy

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Hate at site of convention goers!

by blumandy in

so im eating dinner with my hubby and kids at a local family restaurant, when in walks some people with name tags of some sort, i cant read them, im sitting to far away, but they have the look of the convention name tags.

well i guess i can spot a jw right off, because sure enough as i got closer, there it was a flash back from the past.

the same ol name tags.

blumandy

So im eating dinner with my hubby and kids at a local family restaurant, when in walks some people with name tags of some sort, i cant read them, im sitting to far away, but they have the look of the convention name tags. well i guess i can spot a jw right off, because sure enough as i got closer, there it was a flash back from the past. the same ol name tags. it said something like "the end of days is near". (hasnt it been "near" for like generations.) anyhow, i had to bite my tounge, becuase i honestly wanted to yell out"cult!".i wanted to soo bad i couldnt stand it, i had to go outside, and have my hubby pay the bill. i dont know if its being on these boards, or just the site, of them, but i seem to be hating them more and more. its not a good feeling to hate so much . does anybody else have a similar story, or feel the same way about the hate for them.~mandy

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WT desparate: Aug 15 WT- In Our Next Issue: When A Loved One Leaves Jehovah

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

no, i don't have this article yet, it will appear in the sep 1, 2006 wt.

it may even be a wt study article.. in the august 15 watchtower, the box "in our next issue" has three forthcoming articles, and one of them is "when a loved one leaves jehovah".

of interest, it's not when a loved one leaves the society, it's jehovah.. will keep you posted.

blumandy

im sure my Very active jw parents will luv the article. it will give them one more reason to continue egnoring there (me)daughter and 2 grandchildren. ofcourse i knew that the society was against "us", my parents wouldnt know what unconditional love was, even if it came as a huge airplane and fell on them!~mandy

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i wont be a holy roller, but i am searching for something.

by blumandy in

jw
friends

hi all, ive been disfellowshipped 11 years, and ive blindly went through life, but with in the past 5 years, getting married, having kids, ive started to want to learn of god.i feel being raised in the jw's i wasnt ever taught, and what i did learn was force fed, and i dont think it was 100% truth.truth to them, but not exactally biblical.

anyhow, ive started doing my research , im reading the book of john now, and its pretty amazing, mind u im reading some verses over and over, to make sure i am understanding them, but it feels great.

great to know i can freely read my bible, of my choosing, and benifit on my own.ofcourse, i think its freaking my husband out, he knows ill never be a jw, (its a cult ,i feel)and a holy roller im not.

blumandy

Thanks for the kind thoughts, and infdo. I am reading john presently and then will read the gospels(had to find out what the gospels were, i never learned that from the kingdom hall,ofcourse i didnt pay to much attention either) anyhow, i think i have been taking the bible literally, i never knew not too. as far as what i have leardned, i learned in john, ch. 5 or 6, that god and jesus are equal, at least thats my take on it, i re read it like 5 times. i know that i was never taught that from jw's.they are very against that, and the trinity.ofcourse im still learning, so dont know what i believe, just yet.but i can tell im getting close! yes, im still standoffish with "religion, and church", but maybe in time, tho u'd think 11 years would be enough, oh, what scars ive been left with!~mandy

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i wont be a holy roller, but i am searching for something.

by blumandy in

jw
friends

hi all, ive been disfellowshipped 11 years, and ive blindly went through life, but with in the past 5 years, getting married, having kids, ive started to want to learn of god.i feel being raised in the jw's i wasnt ever taught, and what i did learn was force fed, and i dont think it was 100% truth.truth to them, but not exactally biblical.

anyhow, ive started doing my research , im reading the book of john now, and its pretty amazing, mind u im reading some verses over and over, to make sure i am understanding them, but it feels great.

great to know i can freely read my bible, of my choosing, and benifit on my own.ofcourse, i think its freaking my husband out, he knows ill never be a jw, (its a cult ,i feel)and a holy roller im not.

blumandy

hi all, ive been disfellowshipped 11 years, and ive blindly went through life, but with in the past 5 years, getting married, having kids, ive started to want to learn of god.i feel being raised in the jw's i wasnt ever taught, and what i did learn was force fed, and i dont think it was 100% truth.truth to them, but not exactally biblical. anyhow, ive started doing my research , im reading the book of john now, and its pretty amazing, mind u im reading some verses over and over, to make sure i am understanding them, but it feels great. great to know i can freely read MY bible, of MY choosing, and benifit on MY own.ofcourse, i think its freaking my husband out, he knows ill never be a jw, (its a cult ,i feel)and a holy roller im not.(he was raised baptist)however, it is scary in a way delving into this scripture stuff, i in a way feel i cant measure up, i guess thats from the jw's. and my folks, i certainly dont measure up to them. anyhow am i the only one that feels this way?surely not.just venting here,mandy

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Is is easier to just forget about religion as a whole??

by EC in

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friends

i feel like i am getting bitter and that is onr thing i do not want to be...but this whole religion, god thing is gets to be too much... .

i do believe there is a creator, but have no idea what the purpose is.....i've tried the whole jesus thing, but really that doesn't make too much sence to me either....so where does that leave me???

in limbo....so i would rather just forget it all... .

blumandy

EC, it sounds like ur on ur way to doing whats right and best for u and ur children. i wish you the best in your research and your cituation. i think ill always have a gut instinct to reject church, but i wont reject god.take care, and hope to chat again.~mandy

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Is is easier to just forget about religion as a whole??

by EC in

jw
friends

i feel like i am getting bitter and that is onr thing i do not want to be...but this whole religion, god thing is gets to be too much... .

i do believe there is a creator, but have no idea what the purpose is.....i've tried the whole jesus thing, but really that doesn't make too much sence to me either....so where does that leave me???

in limbo....so i would rather just forget it all... .

blumandy

i thought staying away from religion in general, was the way to go , when i first got disfellowshipped. but 11 years later, and a hubby, and 2 kids, makes me realise i have to figure this thing out. so ive started researcing diffrent religions. and i already knew i wouldnt go back to jw's, but found the proof i needed from the niv bible, that some of there teachings werent always what the bible said. i researched the making of the jw bible, and there was really no formal training of the other language, before making the jw bible. i was shocked, but then when i researched the history of jw, i was even more shocked, anyhow im getting off subject, i guess what im trying to say is, i felt like u at one point, but now ive come to see, that for myself and my family, i need to figure this religion thing out. i havent joined a church, im still pretty turned off by organised religion in general, jw left such a bad taste in my mouth. but i think for my family sake, we will certainly celebrate christian holidays, i felt so left out not celebrating them as a kid, and maybe in a way im making up for that, (u should see my house at christmas). ok im rambling, just do ur on research when ur ready, and do what u feel is best for ur kids. i know i didnt want mine to suffer as i did.~mandy

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Visit from JW relatives went better than expected

by troubled mind in

wow miracles never cease to amaze me .

i was not bombarded by mil like i thought i was going to be .

thought they were going to pry into why we are no longer going to meetings , they went by themselves while here and didn't even ask us if we wanted to go too .

blumandy

hi there, im new to board here, but ill just jump right in.glad the visit went so well. i imagine a visit from mine wouldnt go as smoothlly. but use caution when visiting them, im sure the magazines wil lbe stratigically placed where u can see them at there home, and once at there home, they may feel more inclined to up the anty so to speak. if its one thing ive learned from my experience its when they seem"normal", that they come from behind and smack the same load of jw stuff on ya.and your left thinking, i should of known better. but maybe not, good luck!~mandy

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So why now after 18 years have I taken the step of joining you here?

by PaulMarshall in

since finding this forum.

i have so far lost two days work... i am soooooooooo behind.

the shear volume of responses i have had from my initial posting as well as the emails, some of which made me shed tears, coupled with some incredibly stimulating conversation online i have had with dubs (i love my new found word) have left me with a back log of things to do.

blumandy

paul, im new to this forum , ive been disfellowshipped 11 years now, i was raised in the"truth" like u.anyhow, i too am just now seeking out these sites, and asking questions. i cant believe what i recently found out about the history of jws. anyhow, i decided to research and see what the"bible" says. since we always read the jw bible. so i got out a new international version, and king james version, and ive been reading the book of john, my husband is quite taken back by me reading, i might add. anyhow, in chapter 5 or 6 i believe, it shows a flaw to the jws teaching of god an jesus not being equal. it clearly seems to state that they are equal, im just learning of the trinity and not sure what exactly to blieve yet, but it did sadden me to see that it seemed my parents failed to miss this. since jws are very against the trinity. im typing alot, so ill just say, that ur not the only one that after years, has started to "think". do ur own research, its been so enlightening for me!~mandy