Should you Believe in the Trinity?
I think the question that needs to be presented is "What does the Bible Teach?"
I've had many Jehovah's Witnesses scream at me "The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible" and I answer (politely) no your quite correct it doesn't, But the logical conclusion that it exists is undeniable and to believe that it doesn't is illogical.. and we know God is not the author of Confusion and is therefore not illogical...
Is there a person called the Father in the NT and is he called God?
2 Peter 1:17 - For he recieved honour and Glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory saying, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.
From that one passage we see that there is a person called the Father and he is called God and we also see a person called the Son
Is there a person called the Son in the NT and is he called God?
John 8:58-59 - Jesus applies the "I Am" divine name from Ex 3:13-14 unto himself and the Jews knew it as they instantly took up stones to kill him, because he'd called himself God.
John 5:15-18 - A man Jesus healed told the jews about it, the Jews tried to kill him for breaking the sabbath law, Jesus said if my Father works so can I.. the Jews again tried to kill him for claiming equality with the father..
John 10:29-33 - Jesus explains that the Father is greater than all, and then says "I and the Father are One", the jews once again seek to kill him, upon asking why they tell him that he is blaspheming by making himself equal with God..
There a 4 Suggestions here
1) Jesus is Clinically insane
2) Jesus is Dillusional and doesn't know who he is
3) Jesus is deliberately decieving people
4) He actually was Who he claimed to Be !!
Rev 1:12-18 - We see one unto like the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) identified as Alpha and Omega and First and Last as he is speaking and then in v18 the one speaking said he was dead at one stage Who died except the Son?
Rev 22:13 - The Alpha and Omega describes himself as also the "First and Last"
This passage contradicts Isa 44:6 which says Jehovah God is the First and Last and besides him there is no God..
Which incidently contradicts the NWT John 1:1 which claims there are Two Gods..
Heb 1:8 - But unto the Son ( Jesus ) he saith ( Jehovah ) your throne O'God is forever and ever..
Is there a person called the Spirit and is he called God?
Acts 5:3-4 - Ananius lied to the Holy Spirit and Peter said he had lied to God...
And just to quell the "Active Force" theory in Acts 13:1-2 how could an Active Force ( lightning ? ) set aside work for people? if this is a personification what action or feeling or emotion is this describing through personification...
might I also add that in Luke 1:41,67 - the world "filled" ( grk. pletho ) can mean "furnished" as in we are the "temple of the living God" and we are furnished with the Holy Spirit... and the word "poured" ( grk. ekcheo ) as in "poured out" means "to bestow"
I understand that it takes alot more than that to explain my reasoning but i'm trying to keep it brief, those verses alone bring about the watchtower reasoning usually, that Jehovah is Almighty God ( notice in Isa 10:21 he's called "mighty" ) and Jesus is a little God just a puny "Mighty God" but we know this is illogical because there is only one True god and therefore Jesus must be false... and that there a Two Alpha's and Two Omega's and Two First's and Two Last's which is also quite illogical...
My aim isn't make you believe, I understand there are some that like God in there own little box, and If I could use a well worn and crusty analogy, I would point to the triple-point of water, when water at the exact same instance in time is three seperate things (in the right circumstance) whilst still remaining the same substance, and if our Creator can create something that can do it, why can't he do it himself :)
That's my 29 cents anyhow. Feel Free to Flame away...
God Bless..
