Everyone- thanx for the warm welcome!
tremoka
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Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...
by tremoka init has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.
i respect that.
this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.
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Why do the majority of "newbies" disappear ???
by kid-A ini have noticed that, in general, there is a "core" of regular posters on jwd that have been members for several years.. however, it seems the vast majority of "newbies" disappear after a couple posts, days or perhaps a week.
how many "welcome" or "introduction" .
threads have we had here where the new member disappears within a day or so, never to post again?
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tremoka
As soon as I found this forum-I had to join! I find that the issues addressed here are NEVER spoken of or aknowledged within bonds of friendship in the org.
We all think them, but too on guard or insecure to admit it in the open. My first post was the 1st time I had verbalized those feelings outside my head!
For these reasons I believe this forum is unique to others. Perhaps the high turnover newbie rate is becuase they're simply not ready for more yet!
It's a gradual, slow, awakening process.
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Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...
by tremoka init has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.
i respect that.
this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.
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tremoka
But I truly do believe THE HOLY SPIRIT comforts us during these very upsetting days,,, If the WT IS right ,Then THAT is NOT the GOD I worship !!! My God is the GREAT TEACHER!!!! If I request His presence EVERY MORNING ON RISING!!! & can remember to leave my woes at the foot of the cross. Spend time in speaking to him through out the day... I find I have that very peace HE promised. It is only when I take my woes back !!!! I get frustrated.
Mouthy, I am glad I got to meet you before you left the board!!! Thank you for your comments. That's what has me confused as well! I feel more peace than I ever did in my years of being a JW-now that I'm living according to what I think is best for me and my family-not the dictates of some crack pots as LDH put it. lol
Yeah, that's kind of my resolve as well. I'm picturing a different God than the WT. If they're right, well I have peace in knowing that I lived the best I could, I tried what I thought was right!
I think true faith is when we leave our woes with God, so we can move forward. It is when we place these burdens upon ourselves that we become crippled in our life course. There's soooo much good to be done and enjoy out there!
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Now Brothers........
by geevee inhow many times did the chairman at the meetings address the whole cong as "brothers" where you are?
one [note... one of many] of my peeves was this one guy in particular would always address everyone there as brothers, whether the wore skirts of not.
now brothers, yes that includes the brothers in skirts with long hair and earings..... .
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tremoka
Not positive female validation for all those young impressionable female minds. My daughter, an early teen always asks why women aren't included with the 'brother' intro, why they can't give solo talks, privileges etc.
Never mind the negative view it contributes to on the young guys. Sad to say that there are a few of these men that treat their wives as second class citizens in the KH here. I've been known to keep your wife away from me 'cause I'm outspoken, opinionated or have ideas. hee hee
I'm sorry but I'm not going to sit back and watch some father condescend to or belittle his daughter because of her 'feminine' ways in front of other young kids-it's sooooo wrong.
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Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...
by tremoka init has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.
i respect that.
this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.
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tremoka
It has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and I. We do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.
Where I am breaking this cycle, I say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart. I respect that. This is all he's ever known.
However, I was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, I know I can do this too. 'tis very simular. I still have nightmares of leaving the mormon church, that what I was conditioned as, that's how I grew up! That's what I've known. In becoming a witness, my brain thought it had found the truth but something in my heart felt wrong. Yet I attributted it to lack of faith, spirtually weak etc. I was a deeply spiritual person-I sought truth, did not stand up for man made and evolved doctrines. What a slap in my face 14 years later that awoke me caught in another leg trap. I'm not sure where I stand religiously except for the knowledge that I hate organized religion yet I still want a relationship with God.
Confusion is the state that I'm left in.
How do you go from seeing the non-christian origin in holidays etc to cross the fence and actually celebrate them?
How do you look at the very real state that the world is in and not hope for some divine help or intervention?
How could God leave us hear with his word the bible and allow so much diversity in it's interpretation?
These are some things that I'm currently chewing on.
I'm just looking for different, perhaps critical insight and perspective.
Thanks to all!!!!!!
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The very night I join this forum, the PO calls me...
by tremoka inyeah so monday night i sign up, make my first post and our po calls, whom i'vent heard from for 6 months, i've not attended one meeting, missed my first memorial ever, missed my first convention ever, and he calls leaving a message for me!
not the inactive head of this household but his lowly inactive wife.
things that make you go hmmmmmm....... apparently it's the co visit this week????
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tremoka
Hey Serendipity!
No, I don't think I'll call back. I just want to move on and get ahead with my life. I'm so drained and exhausted of all of it. Yah no what I mean?
Besides, I'm curious to see what will happen next. Will they continue to pursue my little lost flock???
I mean I have to be careful. Political manouvers with whole family being JW's, JW business ties etc... we could really screw ourselves over.
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The very night I join this forum, the PO calls me...
by tremoka inyeah so monday night i sign up, make my first post and our po calls, whom i'vent heard from for 6 months, i've not attended one meeting, missed my first memorial ever, missed my first convention ever, and he calls leaving a message for me!
not the inactive head of this household but his lowly inactive wife.
things that make you go hmmmmmm....... apparently it's the co visit this week????
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tremoka
I'm wondering if I'll get some unexpected visitors at my door this week!
I'm also wondering why he directed the call to me and not my husband. That's what erks me so. You see, for years I was the spiritual lead in the family, my hubby always has struggled in this area (bless him). Yet for any progress our family made whether the kids comments, or my pioneering(long time ago), it would be my husband that would get the commendation for it!
"Brother, your family is doing great! Keep up the fine work etc"---ugghh
Throughout our whole jw 'career' they've mainly addressed him. I'm invisible...hiding behind the skirt of the man. lol
that is until now
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Newbie intro
by Just as I am ini have been lurking here for a few months now, reading all the net soup archived postings and wanted to make an intro.
i've never posted to a forum before, so please excuse anything not in proper form!
like many of you, i was born and raised jw, third generation.
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tremoka
I am now free, free, FREE to live and love and worship as I choose without that hook of guilt leading me around by the lip all the time. It's been 5 months since I discovered the truth that set me free and I am still giddy with happiness that it's all over, but still dealing with some resentment. And I know I will have to deal for a while yet with thoughts and actions that were indoctrinated into my little-kid head that creep in from time to time which affect me in various ways.
My sentiments exactly!!!
This is exactly what I'm experiencing now.
Relief, Freedom, Peace, Happiness, Free to learn and experience life!
I find myself bitter with resentment often. But I've finally tasted what true life is about, I've no more time and energy to waste on personal JW trauma. I want to move forward.
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The very night I join this forum, the PO calls me...
by tremoka inyeah so monday night i sign up, make my first post and our po calls, whom i'vent heard from for 6 months, i've not attended one meeting, missed my first memorial ever, missed my first convention ever, and he calls leaving a message for me!
not the inactive head of this household but his lowly inactive wife.
things that make you go hmmmmmm....... apparently it's the co visit this week????
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Yeah so Monday night I sign up, make my first post and our PO calls, whom I'vent heard from for 6 months, I've not attended one meeting, missed my first memorial EVER, missed my first convention EVER, and he calls leaving a message for ME! Not the inactive head of this household but his lowly inactive wife.
things that make you go hmmmmmm......
apparently it's the co visit this week???? according to the message.....
yah ok
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DeIndoctrination
by Shazard inwhat about using wt tactics against them?
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how to attract jw and keep them long enough to get chances to reach their mind and plant seeds of doubt about wt?
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tremoka
This is my first post. I'm new here. Inactive for a while. Tired of fence sitting. My personal unvoiced issues have been addressed in this thread. Wow. I'm glad I'm here.
As with Swan, in my experience, I also find this to be true. Lack of true, unconditional companionship is a lonely depressing existence. I have also found there to be an alarmingly high incidence of depression and mood disorder among JWs. In my 13 years in this religion, those who I felt any bond of closeness too have left. Mostly because they have given up on themselves, lacking in the ability to mold and conform to the JW clone.
I find myself exhausted with the battle. To the point where my relationship with God has been jeapordized. I have also come to terms with myself. Never have I felt more relieved and at peace not active in the 'truth'. I was proud of myself for missing my first memorial this year! I thought I'll be struck down by God or something. lol
I think for those who are culturally brought up as JW's will have the greater challenge in waking up. They have been indoctrinated from the forming of their impressionable minds. The thinking is so steeped into them. I've brought many issues up with my hubby including organ transplant, 1975, education-he's also inactive, but so DEFENSIVE about his beliefs. 3 generations witnesses in his family. It would mean losing them all if he was consciously decisive in escaping this prison.
His choice though. I know I can't do it anymore-nor will my kids. At their young ages they see through it. The pressure to comment or service so so in so will play with them-it's crap and I'm teaching my children to be true to themselves and to be real.
So for those who are searching, like me they will find a group like this to deindoctrinate themselves.
Thanks everyone! This has been penting up inside for a very long time.