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THE SLAVE WHO LIVED TO SEE THE SIGN !!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

chapter 17 " god's kingdom has approached " 1973 .

highlights and ( domestics ) added.

21 although raising the question about the "faithful and discreet slave," jesus was in no doubt about who this "slave" was.

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Holy cow! This is gold!! thanks Data-Dog!!

We see that the new light isn't so new. Since 1973 it's been up in the air. And they just presented this idea that David H. Splane loved so much as if it was brand new from heaven!!

Holy cow! What a find!

You see, the GB/FDS/WT loves to ask questions and them introduce the correct idea, as in:

Since Jesus spoke of this "slave" in his prophecy concerning the "sign of [his] presence and of the conclusion of the system of things," did that composite "faithful and discreet slave" first come into existence during his "presence" or parousia from 1914 onward?

After this, people will say: "uh, this might make sense", but them the GB/FDS/WT, says no! is the other way around. Freaking 39 years had to pass for them to go back to the "drawing table" and accept the "teaching" that they disregarded as false in first place. (I believe the former teaching, and the new are not correct. It's just a parable GB/FDS/WT! don't you read?)

And to think that the GB/FDS/WT would have disfellowshipped you back in 1973 if you thought that this teaching were correct.

This begs the question: Why did they have to introduce this idea in first place to later say that is not correct? Maybe since 1973 they were some members of the GB/FDS/WT that were trying to change this teaching?

I would like to see if they mention this book when the touch on the subject in an upcoming magazine explaining the new-but-not-so-new light.

God let them to be in the dark for 39 years when they were so close...

Freaking crazy.

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Does an "all knowing" God have the leisure of choosing not to know something?

by wannabefree in

this concept just always caused a conflict in my mind.

i can remove the idea of predestination with knowing something in advance, why would the watch tower insist that god chooses not to know something?

is that even possible for god?

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Love how Bobcat put it:

"The paradox resides in the fact that you have to know about a thing in order to choose it as an item that you will not know"

Excellent.

Even the WT/FDS/GB says it as Blondie quoted them: " Selective foreknowledge means that God could choose not to foreknow indiscriminately all the future acts of his creatures."

The key word is selective. You can't select something that you don't know. So, God knew about Adam's fall and selected to not know??

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The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story

by fulltimestudent in

i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.

the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.

the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.

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Yes. Now hang them. Including the little bas*!rd "teenage".

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WT to Brethren: "Are you still spreading our recently exposed lies that we were forced to change to save ourselves from utter embarassment? (Watchtower -April 15, 2013 page 9)

by Calebs Airplane in

of course, that question was softened up and changed to:.

"is your teaching up-to-date?

" (see illustration on page 9).

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Wow. They are still talking about the 1995 New Light about the sheep and goat? I mean, if the average R&F can't notice the New Light 18 years later...

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A picture so outrageous, it deserves its own thread...

by cedars in

i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .

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cedars.

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Russell:

Beware of "organization.” It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others' consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you understand God’s Word today, and so continue growing in grace and knowledge and love day by day. (The Watchtower, September 15, 1895)

It's not like his opinions matter that much nowdays in JW's land...

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A picture so outrageous, it deserves its own thread...

by cedars in

i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .

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cedars.

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When I look at that picture, I can't not think about the passage in Acts 6:1-4:

6 In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food. 2 So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, “It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables. 3 Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them 4 and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word.”

By the "Ministry of the Word", I assume preaching. And these were the Apostles, saying this: "We don't wan to spend time organizing things, somebody else do it and we pray and preach"

See the WT/GB/FDS, they are sooooo happy to seat and let the r&f publishers do the ministry of the Word, in the mean time, they spend their time in meetings, and organizing things.

Why on earth they are not shown taking the lead preaching??

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New Release for 2013 District Assemblies

by RubaDub in

an insider at bethel has confirmed that there will be a new book released this summer at the district assemblies.

the society is using some new technology called "current light.

" it allows them to print the book with certain parts in permanant ink (as has been historically used) while other parts of the book have erasable ink.. as i understand it, sentences that begin with words such as "evidently, apparently, obviously, it appears that, likely, clearly, doubtless" and numerous other phrases will be in a slightly different font so that the "current light" sentences can be easily changed when needed.. for example:.

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Way to go! Eraser Light!

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Did You Give Much $$$ To The Kingdom Hall And/Or Watchtower Society?

by minimus in

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i typically gave $$$ to the local kh and seldom gave donations to the society.. i always am amazed how some church going people have very little materially, yet make sure the church and the pastors are well taken care of..

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In the past, according to the book of Acts, money was collected to help other brothers. Try that with the WT. They just collect money for their printers!

And to answer your question: I try hard not to.

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WT 4/15 GB: narcissism in high functioning individuals (big ego or severe disorder)

by Gorbatchov in

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there is anonther topic about the new organizational sheet of the jw organisation.. it's nice to see the gb (=fds) on top of the earthly part of it.

read some interesting information about the.

severe disorder they must have:.

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It seems the Branch Committee, CO's and Do's got upgraded since 1971 MS got downgraded.

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WT 4/15 GB: narcissism in high functioning individuals (big ego or severe disorder)

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

there is anonther topic about the new organizational sheet of the jw organisation.. it's nice to see the gb (=fds) on top of the earthly part of it.

read some interesting information about the.

severe disorder they must have:.

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1893 There is no organization to-day clothed with such divine authority to imperiously command mankind...though we are well aware that many of them in theory claim that they ought to be permitted to do so. (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1893, p. 266)

1895 Beware of "organization." It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others' consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's Word today. (Watchtower Sept. 15, 1895, p. 216)

I firmly believe Russell should be disfellowshipped.