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  Guns. Well said Mr President, if only your countrymen had the same courage to consider changing course.

  by nicolaou in

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  ive had to make statements like this too many times.

  communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times.

  once again, communities [were harmed] because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no problem getting their hands on a gun.. lets be clear: at some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.

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  Well said little_socrates.
  
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  Guns. Well said Mr President, if only your countrymen had the same courage to consider changing course.

  by nicolaou in

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  ive had to make statements like this too many times.

  communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times.

  once again, communities [were harmed] because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no problem getting their hands on a gun.. lets be clear: at some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.

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  this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.

  Ok?????
  
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  Do or did the JW's believe dinosaurs were vegetarians?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought at one time or maybe they still do believe that the dinosaurs were vegetarians?

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  The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.

  Oh my.

  When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life.

  I guess God does not know how to pick up after him that he left a big "garbage" of bones everywhere.
  
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  Why are demons so easy to make friends with?

  by GodZoo in

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  one thing i have been wondering lately regarding a teaching of the org (and other christians) regarding demons... why is it they so easy to contact, make friends with and have them full on involved in your life on an almost immediate and daily basis?.

  why is it you can pray to god, jesus, angels, whoever, during an entire lifetime of offering them loyal devoted and unswerving service yet not one time in say 50 years of this lifestyle will you ever get a response, hear a peep, see even a wisp of a vision or even get the faintest hint of unquestionable interaction from god..?.

  yet on the other hand demons are ready and willing to engage and befriend you in a heartbeat, touch you, talk to you, even molest you in your bed at night, give you gifts, talents, charm and worldly success simply after buying an old mirror, a bit of tatty furniture or a dishevelled book from some dusty old second hand goods store, or simply watching a scary movie or listening to a sexy rock song... .

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  Nice thread. a sexy rock song.. umm...
  
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  Thanks wifibandit!
  
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  This is a crappy letter from The Watchtower. I'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are. And at the end, they say: "We should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters". But this is what this stupid letters IS in the first place!

  It is definitively a cult!

  Dear Brothers:

  This letter replaces the letter dated March 27, 2008, to all bodies of elders on the same
  subject. Paragraphs 6 and 7 of this letter contain updated information regarding the music played
  before and after congregation meetings and before assembly and convention sessions.

  A number of reports have been received indicating that some congregations consistently
  play the music for singing so softly that it is difficult for some to sing in a heartfelt manner. In
  other cases, it appears that the volume of the music is normally so loud that it drowns out the
  voices of the congregation. The brothers who operate the sound system in the Kingdom Hall are
  encouraged to avoid both extremes. Some thought must be given as to how this can be accomplished.

  Brothers assigned to operate sound systems must take seriously the fact that instrumental
  music is rightly featured in true worship, whether it is played to be listened to or used as an accompaniment
  to singing. Music and song are gifts of God by which Jehovah’s faithful servants
  can render praise and thanksgiving as well as give expression to deep emotions of both sorrow
  and joy. Jehovah’s angels have raised their voices in poetic expressions of praise upon observing
  the wondrous works of our magnificent Creator. (Job 38:7; Luke 2:8-14) The Bible record shows
  clearly the wide range of expression in music and song. Consider, for example, the triumphant
  song of victory on the lips of Moses and the sons of Israel on their being delivered from the
  Egyptian military forces at the Red Sea, or the numerous prayers and supplications of David set
  to music in the Bible book of Psalms. Also, give thought to what would have been the tenor and
  tone of the singing of Jesus and his eleven faithful apostles at the conclusion of the Lord’s Evening
  Meal and before going out to the Mount of Olives.—Matt. 26:30, ftn.

  It is important to take note of the tenor and tempo of our Kingdom songs. Some of them
  are expressions of fervent prayer to Jehovah, thanksgiving, or heartfelt supplication, while the
  words of others remind us of our Christian responsibilities. Some songs are written to bring comfort.
  Others reassure us of Jehovah’s protection and the promised reward for faithfulness. All of
  us enjoy raising our voices in singing the lively encouragement to remain steadfast and to keep
  busy serving Jehovah, declaring his glory, and making new disciples.

  So it is that a little increased volume may be appropriate for full-throated singing of the
  lively, more vigorous songs. However, many prayerful expressions would naturally be rendered
  with a somewhat softer voice and perhaps with slightly less volume. Keep in mind that the music
  is to lead those singing the song. The important thing for the brothers who handle the sound
  equipment is to remain always alert and attentive to their assigned responsibilities in this matter.

  Bodies of elders should make arrangements to play Kingdom songs over the sound system
  before and after congregation meetings. Such music should not be allowed to drown out
  or overshadow the interchange of encouragement that comes from Christian association and theocratic
  conversation.

  The situation is different at assemblies and conventions. Prerecorded musical preludes
  are provided for use at the start of each session. These are part of the program, and are usually
  ten minutes in duration. The purpose of these preludes is not to provide background music for
  conversations and association. Instead, they are a means to indicate that the large crowd should
  end their conversations and be seated. Sitting and quietly listening to the music also helps us to
  prepare our mind and heart to absorb the spiritual program to follow. The prelude is considered
  part of our worship, similar to the singing of the assigned songs at these events. Hence, the volume
  should be at a higher level than the volume of the background music that congregations play
  before and after their weekly meetings. The prelude music should initially be loud enough to be
  heard clearly over the conversations that have been in progress. As the audience settles into their
  seats and listens to the music, the volume level may be lowered so as not to overpower the now
  quiet and attentive audience. Good judgment must be used to accomplish the purpose of the prelude
  music while ensuring that it is not uncomfortably loud. The session chairman should enthusiastically
  invite the audience to be seated to listen to the prelude music.

  If on occasion there are different opinions as to the application of what has been set forth
  in this letter, no individual should resort to forcing his personal opinion on others. All matters are
  to be resolved by the local elders or, in the case of assemblies and conventions, the brothers responsible
  for oversight of the program.

  May you find these comments both helpful and encouraging. We should avoid making
  specific rules about somewhat technical matters. However, if we understand the spirit to be displayed
  on every occasion with regard to the use of music in our worship of Jehovah, this will assist
  us greatly in determining what is appropriate. Similar principles could be applied to other
  public and private gatherings of Jehovah’s true worshippers, such as wedding receptions, dinners,
  and other social occasions. Of course, at all times and under all circumstances, our endeavor
  is to do all things for God’s praise and glory.—1 Cor. 10:31; Col. 3:17.
  

  Be assured of our warm Christian love and greetings.
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  Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

  page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

  "elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

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  They will never let pass a good opportunity to trash education.
  
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  Asamblea Regional 2015

  by wifibandit in

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  for the spanish speaking: .

  https://youtu.be/hwym3x_cuvy?list=plrw9u-n1z2m_zcto4vkw6ay4xyougmvhl.

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  Great job!
  
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  Why a new "World Headquarters"?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
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  i just dont get it.

  the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?

  they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.

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  tim310rd amd talesin,

  My only point is that it IS about money.
  
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  New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

  he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

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  Great wifibandit!