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  My Breaking Point -- 11/9/14

  by game1914over in

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  i have enjoyed reading your comments during the past four years.

  deep down inside, i have always been agnostic.

  the first few chapters in genesis are contradictory and differing.. no one has ever been able to answer my question: "why was satan ever created?".

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  LisaRose

  Welcome. You make a very good point about the focus on spandex pants and metrosexual suits when there are pedophiles in the organization. You could say the same about domestic violence and business fraud also, all problems among people in the organization, but they cannot talk about that, because then they would have to admit that it is a problem.

  It was ridiculous to go on about the father who raised seven kids, but the last two weren't ministerial servants yet. We know that they have a very low retention rate among young people, so if any one has seven out of seven children in the religion they are doing remarkably well. Then those who have children who have left are made to feel even worse, like it was all their fault. This religion has nothing to offer, it's no surprise most don't want to stick around.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  I agree, such stupidity displayed in his rant means that they are their own worst enemies and don't really need us anymore.

  I was thinking that in some areas the local brothers might be putting a softer spin on their talks, so many JWs may not be aware of how crazy and hardcore the governing body is. It might be doing more harm than good to have them advertise how nutty they really are. I can just see the teen agers rolling their eyes at the tight pants/spanx comments.

  When my kids were teens they had the talk about music, the speaker went on and on about how bad the song "Mack the knife" was. It's a jazz standard from the sixties, they had never heard of it. It was embarrassing, they were so out of touch to the problems young people were facing at the time, things are no better now.
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  Im still young (19)....just reading Crisis of Conscious

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  hi guys, ive finally got a copy of coc from my local library, im on page 120ish and im really enjoying it!

  the thing that gets me now that im enlightened is how little the rank and file know about anything this organazation does!

  everything is so secretive and covered up behind a curtain.

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  LisaRose

  Try just asking them relevant questions if the opportunity come up. Like "why aren't we supposed to read literature that is critical of the organization, shouldn't the truth stand up to criticism? We encourage Catholics to read our literature that is critical of their church, why the double standard". The religion has so many rules that make no sense if you think about them, but people don't think critically. If you ask most witnesses to defend their beliefs they cannot, even after a lifetime of meetings and study. There is something fundamentally wrong when you are not allowed to read anything critical of the Watchtower or ask certain questions.
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  Im still young (19)....just reading Crisis of Conscious

  by Blackfalcon98 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys, ive finally got a copy of coc from my local library, im on page 120ish and im really enjoying it!

  the thing that gets me now that im enlightened is how little the rank and file know about anything this organazation does!

  everything is so secretive and covered up behind a curtain.

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  LisaRose

  Good for you. It makes me happy to see a young person waking up before the organization ruins their life.

  I actually haven't read the book. I left before I knew TTATT, I just knew the religion wasn't for me and it wasn't representing God. It took me years before I even found JWN.
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  China from the Inside; The Grasslands of Ruoergai

  by fulltimestudent in

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  sichuan province in the soutwest of china is closer to india than it is to beijing.

  it borders burma and bangladash and shares borderzones with xizang (tibet).. the architect of modern china, deng xiaoping, came from a middle class sichuan family, who sent him to france, sponsored by a group called the diligent work-frugal study movement, a work and study program, which sponsored some 4000 young chinese by 1927. young deng was only 15. why did he do this.

  deng says, in"to learn knowledge and truth from the west in order to save china.

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  Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. The topography reminds me of some parts of Nevada, serene and beautiful, but also a climate that can be harsh.
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  Baby Beyonce-The 19 month old 'beauty queen' good or bad? For once, I disapprove

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  http://www.msn.com/en-au/travel/news/baby-beyonce-19-month-old-beauty-queen-wowing-crowds-with-single-ladies-routine/vp-bbbskv4?ocid=mailsignout.

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  There are different types of pageants, the really bad ones are called Glitz pageants, maybe they don't have that in Great Britain. For a glitz pageant makeup and big hair are required. It's really incredibly sad, the parents are usually overly invested in their child doing well, it seems to provide some kind of validation if their child wins, especially the ultimate grand supreme, the title everyone wants. If they lose they get really upset, it's kind of pathetic.

  In most cases the parents are not wealthy, I don't know how they can afford to do it, one outfit can cost hundreds of dollars and they need at least two if not three different outfits. They usually have to travel, so they have to pay for hotels, a coach, lessons, spray tan and the entry fee for the pageant itself. Sometimes the kids are into it, sometimes not so much. They give them candy (it's referred to as pageant crack) when they are tired, sometimes they have to bribe them to get them to perform. Some of the girls are total brats, the mom will let them get away with anything as long as they will perform.
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  Baby Beyonce-The 19 month old 'beauty queen' good or bad? For once, I disapprove

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  http://www.msn.com/en-au/travel/news/baby-beyonce-19-month-old-beauty-queen-wowing-crowds-with-single-ladies-routine/vp-bbbskv4?ocid=mailsignout.

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  I thought that whole baby beauty pageant thing was only here in the US, too bad. I have watched a few episodes of Toddlers and Tiaras, I am constantly astonished what Parents are willing to do to their children. Make up, spray tan, fake teeth, wigs, hair teased and sprayed, elaborate dresses, dance lessons, pageant coaches. Often the parents can barely afford these things, they could probably put the money they spend into a savings account and have enough to put the child through college, instead they end up with a bunch of tacky trophies and tiarras. The girls usually end up being brats as the mom will do anything to make sure their little darlings perform on stage. It's horrific.
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  Was God's biggest mistake making humans?

  by usualusername in

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  discuss....

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  Thou speaks folly, verily, thou will be worm food, but thy God doth not exist, except in the fevered dreams of thee. How art does thou believe in a loving heaven father who doth torture his children in the pits of hell?
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  Apostate, I did not mean to imply that you believed the story. I was talking about the people that are devoted Rush listeners that believe everything he says. I am sorry I did not make that clear. It's an interesting story that should be discussed, I am glad you brought it up, It's always interesting to me how different media portray the same story.

  Next time there is coverage of a hot button fundie issue, look at it on Huffinton Post, Fox News and CNN. I did that once and it was an eye opener, it shows how bias creeps in.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

  1. social
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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  I love how people like Rush Limbaugh like to get the fundies spun up. It's ear candy that is swallowed whole, no one ever does the research to see if these things are true. This story will be told and retold, even though it has already been shown that the law doesn't apply to churches or this place because it is a religious corporation.

  I got an email once that was going on about the words "in God we trust" being removed from the dollar coins. It had a picture of a coin and people were urged to not accept them. The only problem was the words had simply been moved to the edge of the coin, and had been moved back several years ago.

  A nicely told lie is that confirms someone's fear or bias is believed more readily than any truth.