Posts by LisaRose

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

LisaRose

Why does this fear of bloodguilt not affect their decision to allow a child to die?

Beccause dying by refusing a blood transfusion is rewarded with praise by Watchtower, while using blood to save a life is still disparaged. They have tried to give an out by allowing fractions, but people have been taught to fear and loath transfusions for years, they will not always adopt more lenient guidelines out of irrational fear. They have also effectively taught people to fear making indecent decisions based on their own conscience, instead looking to the Watchtower for decide for them.

I believe they really don't have a problem with using blood but are afraid to admit they were wrong, they would rather see people continue to die. Talk about blood guilt!

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Hounded to his Death

by Slidin Fast in

http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/inquest-concludes-dad-died-margate-night-went/story-26272711-detail/story.html.

this story makes me ill with rage.

this man's crime?

LisaRose

somehow monitored the site he had been on

I'll bet they did, just doing their elder duty, they didn't look at anything while they were there of course, wink wink, nudge nudge.

What a senseless tragedy.

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Why people don't believe in God

by pressman in

do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.

LisaRose

you have to believe.

Why? If I said you must believe in the Easter bunny, would you, simply because I said you must? Obvious you wouldn't, so why do I have to believe in God on your say so?

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Why people don't believe in God

by pressman in

do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.

LisaRose

Usual nonsense from people who don't have any idea why I don't believe in God. Rather than being afraid, it was only when I stopped being afraid that I looked at the evidence in an unbiased way and realized there was no evidence that he existed. I actually wanted there to be a God, but the evidence just wasn't there.

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Article: Indiana man, a JW, now in prison asks local Muslims for forgiveness for setting fire to their prayer room in the Islamic Center

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.toledoblade.com/religion/2015/04/05/arsonist-asks-local-muslims-for-forgiveness.html.

the fire was set in the prayer room.

damage from smoke and water used to extinguish the september, 2012, blaze caused the islamic center of greater toledo to stay closed until spring of 2013.

LisaRose

It's a "sorry, not sorry" if you ask me.

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Article: Five JWs Deported from Bali for Conducting Door-to-Door Religious Ministry

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?id=11719.

dismantling the watchtower .

five jehovah witnesses deported from bali for conducting door-to-door religious ministry .

LisaRose

Where oh where were Jehovah's angels that support the preaching work? It's almost like they don't have any special protection at all.

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Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah

by B4Right in

how do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.

my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.

LisaRose

Magical thinking is the attribution of causal relationships between actions and events which cannot be justified by reason and observation.

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only people to engage in magical thinking, but they do seem to have perfected it into an art form. It must be the cult mind control that causes them to think things must be true because they need them to be. Your mom gets her books early, which helps her, therefore Jehovah must have planned it that way. There is zero evidence that God was involved, but she looks for things that confirm her faith, while discounting things that would tend contradict her beliefs. She needs there to be a God, so she she's evidence where there is none.

I see this kind of thing everywhere, like when people's say that everything happens for a reason. What would be the reason for the holocaust then? Good things happen, bad things happen, there is no plan, nobody is at the controls, no one is ever going to be, however hard that is to accept.

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In a nutshell, what is the wackiest jw thing?

by stuckinarut2 in

what is the wackiest...strangest....most unusual jw teaching or practice?

LisaRose

If a woman doesn't fight off a rapist she is guilty of fornication. Even if the rapist has a gun and she fears for her life she cannot submit.

Actually this counsel is for her welfare; for, if she should submit to the man's passionate wishes, she would not only be consenting to fornication or adultery, but be plagued by the shame.

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Here at last, My JC letter. No response but heard thru the grapevine that I was DA'd anyways.

by Question_Mans_interpretation in

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hello all, i finally got around to posting my letter to my judicial committee meeting requests.

sorry its kind of long, it came to 4 pages because of the special meeting requests.

tuesday january 28, 2014.

LisaRose

As Jehovah's Witnesses we all thought we belonged to a loving organization that valued truth and justice. It's a bitter pill to swallow that none of these things are important to the them, they only care about quickly getting rid of any individual that they feel threatens them. They do not care about individuals, only about keeping people ignorant of their shameful history and practices. Truth does not matter, justice does not matter, individuals do not matter. It's a cult, that's,what they do.

It's a hard transition to make, losing your friends, family and way of life, but it does get easier. While you cannot replace family, you will make new friends and you will have a better life, free of the control of a heartless cult.

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Oregon, Hillsboro Tribune, Article: Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case in feds' hands

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/255785-125363-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case-in-feds-hands.

lawsuit seeks $10.5 million from hillsboro church, watchtower society .

attorneys for a 40-year-old woman and a 38-year-old man who say they were sexually abused nearly 30 years ago by a church elder in hillsboro want to have a lawsuit filed by the pair last fall placed back in state court jurisdiction.

LisaRose

It seems the Watchtower would rather lose these lawsuits than turn over the requested documentation. Obviously whatever is in these documents is potentially more damaging to them than losing millions in judgements. Obviously, what is in there is so damming they stand to lose a substantial number of followers (and more importantly, they money they contribute) if it becomes known.