I wish we were as diabolical and organized as the Watchtower pretends we are. If we actually were "mentally diseased apostates" we would be able to take advantage of the latest developments to hit them while they are struggling.
LisaRose
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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh
by WildeLover inhttp://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.
i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.
it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
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LisaRose
how about fibro myalgia ? i know several female ex jws who have it--yet i dont know anyone else who has. i'd never heard of it before.
It's pretty common even among non JWs, but I do think JWs are more prone. I have it since my JWs days so unfortunately I have had to think a lot about how it happened. Fibromyalgia is believed to be a problem with the pain signals in the brain. It can be caused by stress and overuse of the muscles, but other than that no one really knows. Men do get fibro, but it is more common than women.
I believe it's a combination of my inborn personality (sensitive and introverted) plus the guilt inducing effects of the cult (never good enough) plus some traumatic life events (child suicide attempts, near death of spouse) plus physical trauma (car accident), plus stressful job, plus social isolation (disfellowshipped husband) . The result is fibromyalgia, widespread pain and muscle soreness. Lack of adequate sleep is believed to be a factor, you can produce symptoms simply by depriving people of sleep. There are tender spots in various places on the body, fibromyalgia is diagnosed when there is pain in at least nine of the eighteen potential points, which are in the same spots for everyone. Sometimes there is a visible lump in the points.
As some others have pointed out, women in the organization have no power and little status.There is a psychological price in the high expectations of the JW life, especially when there is little support or respect. You are either killing yourself trying to meet these expectations or you are feeling guilty about it because you didn't, then when you do get fibromyalgia people usually just think you are faking, because you don't look sick. I have heard many here express the belief that women just make this up to get out of going to meetings. That attitude just adds to your stress and make things worse, it becomes a vicious cycle. The fatigue and pain can be debilitating.
I knew of a case in my congregation. She was the much loved eldest daughter ( I used to think of her as the princess, dad was an elder and she was a pioneer.) She got married and they both were accepted at Bethel. Having read many accounts of Bethel life here I can only imagine that it was a huge culture shock in going from pioneer princess to a status of "lower than whale poop in the Marianas trench" only accepted because they wanted her husband. The petty jealousy and abuse that gets meted out to new ones would be hard to take. She worked in the laundry folding clothes, something that would be a problem for anyone prone to this, the respective motion alone could cause it. Within a year she got fibromyalgia, she was in her early twenties.
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
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LisaRose
A high number of them have all manner of illnesses--both physical and mental----that i had never heard of before. coincidence =-or what ?
I will assume you meant that in a sympathetic way, not that all ex JW women are crazy or sick.
I will say that being a JW did take a toll on me both physically and mentally.The constant stress did cause some problems, things that I will probably deal with the rest of my life. I have been out for fifteen years and mentally I am fine, physically not so much.
I think men are affected just as much, but maybe in express it in different ways. Some have anger issues, some have substance abuse issues.
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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?
by 3rdgen ina poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.
break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.
the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.
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That sounds about right, possibly sooner. I think thry got rid of it to stop people from escaping at the break. It was a mixed bag, as it was a break from the monotony of the meetings, but then you were forced to talk to people whether you wanted to or not. Did they then shorten the meeting by fifteen minutes or just fill it up with more meeting? I can't remember. -
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JW ended a relationship with me
by V1922 inmy jw boyfriend just ended a year and a half relationship with me.
it came out the blue and i'm deeply hurt by this because we were so compatible.
he did it right before the big annual gathering he is presently attending.
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LisaRose
I am sorry this idiot treated you like that. It's a cult. Your boyfriend is being manipulated by a cult. They believe they are the only true religion and that the world is ending soon and anyone that is not a JW will die. They practice shunning and anyone who engages in sex outside of marriage can be disfellowshipped and shunned. This creates havoc in the life of anyone that gets involved with a JW. They may have fun outside of their rules, but inevitably they feel guilty and go back or get caught.
As hurtful as this is, you are probably better off without him. Unless you were to convert he will probably not want to marry you and you do not want to convert, trust us on that. Your boyfriend does not know it's a cult and will probably deny that it could be, so chances of him leaving are not good. The Watchtower would always be the third wheel in the relationship.
Anyway, if he dumped one girlfriend for you he would probably have eventually dumped you for someone else, so he was probably not the one for you anyway. You would probably be better off with someone that does not have all this baggage.
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DOES BELIEF IN THE BIBLE DESTROY ONE'S INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY?
by TerryWalstrom inbased on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.
the bible-believers effect.
those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.
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LisaRose
I think people like the black and white answers that are part of a religious belief system. It means they don't have to think or worry about things, they just accept what they are told, then they don't have to think about it. Anything that challenges their belief system is dismissed out of hand because that's the easier thing to do. It's mental laziness.
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
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Thank you Sail Away. My daughter had some serious mental health problems as a teen that included two suicide attempts. I was still marginally in the religion at the time but I never had her talk to the elders and she got therapy for five years. We all made it through and she is doing great now, happily married, a mom and she has a really great job. It could easily have ended otherwise so I feel very fortunate.
I meditate also, it's been very helpful. I have pain issues and it helps me manage that as well as my ADHD. I am like a broken record here urging people to give it a try, especially if they are still struggling with JW issues, but it really does work. It takes very little time, costs nothing and has been proven to reduce stress, lower blood pressure and help with anxiety and depression. I am 60 and have a family history of high blood pressure, it used to be 140 or more, but since I began meditating daily it went down to 110 to 120.
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Why hasn’t someone gotten real pissed off yet?
by John Aquila ini keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..
or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..
or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.
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LisaRose
Sorry Sparrow dow, I meant to hit the like button, love the picture.
I think it hasn't happened for a few reasons. Many JWs that are disfellowshipped or treated unfairly are still believers and have some fear of Jehovah, so that probably keeps them for doing anything like that. Also, the governing body mostly stays in New York, and it's not that easy to get there for most people, and if you did how would you get to them? I doubt they let anybody off the streets into see them. Another reason could be that the JWs are not that big of a group, so the chances of having someone that deranged is probably not that great. There are just not that many truly deranged people, like the Aurora Colorao shooter, in the whole country. That one still creeps me out, I lived in Aurora and went to that same theater many times.
Still, it could happen, it just takes one. I hope not though, as much as I hate the GB
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Witnesses and anxiety disorder
by mana11 ini saw this on a public user group for jw's .
the librarian [email protected].
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Sail away, I'm sorry you suffered for so long. I hope you find peace and healing now that you are out.
My daughter was about eight years old when the yearbook with all the concentration camp stories came out. she was obsessed with fears about being put in one, it was a rough year.
Field service, the solution to all your problems!
Anxious? Go out in service.
Depressed? Go out in service.
Mentally ill? Go out in service.
Broke? Go out in service.
Sick? Go out in service.